Alan Minter v Chris Eubank

Stronger than the lot of them, maybe a better chin than Lamotta too.

Yes Eubank did avoid some of the better 160-168lbers, and made no secret of the fact he was in boxing purely for the money, it doesnt mean he wasnt the business in the ring and he beat a few of the best in a great great MW/SMW era

Eubank still fought top top contenders/champions like Benn, Watson, Rochiagani, Mallinga and beat them all. Plus past his prime arguably beating 200lb Champion Banger Thompson and Collins.

Minters resume and performances dont come close

 

Stick a WBO defence on Minter's fights with other contenders from the first Finnegan fight onward and i'd say his record is comparable to Eubank's.Better?, not sure, but i wouldn't say it isn't close.

 

You mean WBO level defenses like Sibson? Hamsho? Tonna? Harris? Eubank wasnt fighting a murderers row competition Benn/Watson aside but he was fighting those level of fighters and beating them without breaking a sweat most the time. Minter has some nice technical skills but not quite the level of performance as a Eubank for my liking who had the slickness, sharpness, strength and countering skills to pick Minter apart

 

Yeah, WBO defenses like those guys.the last two of which were at the very end of his career, by which point eubank was losing as well.

Only Harris outright got the better of Minter between the first Finnegan bout and Hagler.Even then he started to pull away because Minter had terrible cuts in his mouth especially.

Both of them fought a similar amount of quality all said, eubank less losses, but more poor performances that may have been punished against better opp.Though i only thought the Schommer and maybe second BEnn fight were robberies, eubank could have lost his title about five times over by the time Collins beat him.


I like them both as technicians though, i have to say.

 

Theres a thread on the British Boxrec forum about Eubank-Benn 2, most lads had it a draw sayign Benn was too inactive in too many rounds, despite winning a few big. Personally I havent seen it in ages and ages and cant really remember but those lads know their boxing

Eubanks close fights get called robberies a bit too easily. The Watson 1 fight wasnt a robbery saw that a while ago. The Ray Close fights maybe should have gone the other way. The Rochiagani certainly not. Havent see the Schommer 1 since when it happened so cant comment

I reckon he deserved 1 or 2 of the Collins fights and the first Thompson fight on the flip side

 

You guys are on drugs....Minter was a chump......Hagler pulverized him to get the title in 2-3 rounds if I remember correctly. Minter had all he could handle with Vito. Minter was a chump, paper champ, and south paw to boot.

 

I scored all his controversial fights recently in the scorecards thread at the top of the page.Close got a gift draw imo, second fight was garbage but i had Eubank winning that as well.Rocchigiani was very tough to score.

 

Sucker for punnishment

 

While holding the spurious WBO 160 title, Eubank defended against
Dan Sherry, and Junior Middle Gary Stretch, plus Benn,and Watson.
During this period ,90-91 the ring rated the following.
Title Vacant
1 Nunn
Jackson
3 Kalambay
4 McCallum
5Collins
6 Eubank
7 Duran
8Watson
9Benn
10 Johnson
Eubanks wouldnt go near the top 5,and a year later with Toney and Jones, McClelllan,and Tate , Barklay ,Duran added, he avoided 11 contenders.

He got a majority dec from Watson at 160 lbs ,and his arse kicked twice by Collins at 168lbs.Collins and Watson had been comprehensively exposed by McCallum.

Eubanks didnt avoid some of the best ,he avoided most of the best.

His resume is littered with journeymen passed off as challengers.

Minter fought Finnegan 3 times ,Antuofermo x2, Ronnie Harris, Tonna x2
Hamsho,Sibson,Seales,Licata,Singletary, and Hagler.


.Eubanks lost both fights with Thompson ,Thompson scaled 189lbs to Eubanks 1861/2lbs in their 1st fight ,and 189 1/2lbs to 189lbs in their 2nd fight.

 

no minter clearly outpointed vito the first time and gave him a doing in thier second fight .and yes hagler did pulverize him

 

I'd hardly say losing in brave efforts against McCallum "conprehensively exposed" them, especially collins who made a decent comeback in that fight.Those were good learning fights, though the Watson bout should have been stopped a couple of rounds earlier and not allowed to develop into a one-sided beating.

Don't disagree that Eubank didn't fight the absolute top rated men though.

 

What a **** post, firstly you ignore the key point that although Eubank wasnt trying to fight the best, when he did against Benn and Watson both better than Minter himself, he won.

Eubank only had 4 title fights at 160. He took the title from Benn who beat 2 of the best Americans in Barkley and McClellan. The Watson fight wasnt even at 160 it was at 168. At 168 Eubank took the WBO, fought WBC champ in Benn and beat the IBF champ in Rochiagani. He beat future WBC champ in Mallinga and fought Collins who he arguable

Minter aside from Hagler and Antuofermo didnt fight anyone truly world class. The rest were pretty much Brit/Euro level fighters, the 1s Minter won and lost to were the level of Gary Stretch and Wharton at best

BTW Thompson was well over 200lbs in the ring and ofcourse KO'd David Haye past his prime

 

I dont accept that Watson and Benn were necessarily both better than Minter at 160lbs.
Watson beat Benn at 160,that's about it.
Benn beat Dewitt for the vacant wbo title,then Barkley,lost to Eubanks,beat Sims ,thats it.

Minter didn't fight anyone world class?
Licata was rated in the top ten for 4 years.
Finnegan was rated for 2 years.
Harris was rated for 3 years.
Tonna was rated for 2 years
Harris was rated for 3 years
Sibson was rated for 4 years
Hamsho was rated for 4 years
That's 7 fighters without including Hagler and Antuofermo.

So Carl Thompson put on 11lbs between the weigh in and the fight against Eubanks?

You don't really want me to comment on that do you?

The first Watson Benn fight was at 160lbs ,for the WBO middle weight title.
The second was at 168 lbs for the WBO super midddleweight title

Before you get abusive and rude ,you should do some research and get your facts right.
Now wipe that egg off your face.

 

I'd take Minter. Eubank is overrated beyond belief.

 

couldn't agree more..