Alavarez-Clottey is a toss up.

Yeah, Alvarez land a lot too. He hit about 90% of his feather punch in Clottey's Arms & Shoulders.:rofl

 

The guy is a world class fighter, What do you expect? Clottey to dominate and throw more punches in every single round?? And what leaky defense are you talking about? Clottey has a very good defense and was catching the MAJORITY of Alvarezs punches with his gloves. If anything Clottey was leaving himself open to get Alvarez to throw more so he has more opportunities to counter and try to take Alvarez out. But not because of "leaky" defense.

 

LOL Great minds think alike. I was just posting that as you did lol.

 

amsterdam sounds like the biggest hater right now...

the alvarez guy wasnt landing **** the whole fight per round he probably averaged like 10 landed punches... clottey was blocking everything

and there was no lack of stamina

maybe lack of determination and focus...

it was obvious that through out the fight clottey was not taking alvarez serious at all... he was just standing around and watching for alvarez to attack so he could practice his counter punching

we all basically watched a glorified sparring session... i had/have huge hopes for clottey to beat cotto but i cant even tell because clottey didnt do anythign to look impressive in this fight.. he just sat there and played defense for 2 rounds then from round 2-12 just would counter punch enough to get the W... he knew alvarez had absolutely no chance ..

so stop hating you really cant take anything from clottey from this fight and you cant give him anything either

 

I'll be reviving Kirks ESB Prediction Championship for 2007.

 

So then we should be in agreement. If we can agree that he's eminently capable of dominating (maybe even blowing out if healthy) a C/C+ guy in Margarito, that should put him at around B+? So it's fair to say that he's a credible name in the mix at the high end of 147? What, all the A-level guys should only ever fight each other all the time? That's a nice fantasy, but not realistic, man. I'd rather see the A-levels fight a rugged B+ Clottey with little chance than people like Baldomir or Estrada who have absolutely NO chance. Clottey is not IMO overhyped for comments such as "Wow I'd really like to see Clottey-Cintron or Clottey-Mayweather". There are far less entertaining stylistic matchups and far less deserving opponents.

 

didn't see the fight. Was Amsterdam right or wrong? What was the result?

 

What are you talking about?

 

When did I say that Clottey is worse than Margarito? Your post doesn't completely make sense to me and I disagree with you when you say Clottey is "a FAR higher level than Margarito". That's rating Clottey WAY too high. It became "the thing" to say for boxing fans on the internet that Clottey gives any elite a tough fight after the Margarito/Corrales matches for no logical reason. He doesn't need to be hyped for any reason, yet he is. That's the problem, nothing else. There's much better guys to hype out there, even B levels.

I thought Margarito won the Clottey fight back when it happened, but I have a plane flight coming up Saturday, so I will take the video of it with me and rewatch it 1 or 2 times.. since you're so sure that Clottey clearly won the fight. I'll make a thread or message you about what I think if you want. I doubt that I will think Clottey clearly won the fight, but who knows.. maybe I missed something. The point is, him and Margarito are pretty much the same level and both don't deserve any hype at all.