Aleksander E in Bar fight

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Beebs, Dec 1, 2007.


  1. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I live in the States, and that moron is talking out of his ass. In Texas, where I grew up, concealed hand gun permits are given out like candy and you can kill the **** out of anyone who's stupid enough to come onto to your property in the middle of the night. ****, I remember a case in Austin around '99 where a guy got off without any charges after he killed someone who he'd caught breaking into his truck by chasing him down shooting him repeatedly in the back while the guy was actually running away from him. And the notion that people would be sent to jail for 'hate crimes' if they defended themselves against a 'minority' assailant with deadly force in Texas or many other states is simply laughable.

    I don't know which Right Wing pundits have been filling Robson's head with the typical "criminals have all the rights, non-whites are running wild, and the sky is falling" tripe, but he's describing conditions in fantasy land not the US.
     
  2. ufoalf

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    Different states have different laws. You're talking about a state that is radically left-wing so for generalization of america its a little bit skewed. As far as i can recall you can stand your ground when someone is breaking into your place but you still can't shoot them in the back unless they committed violent crime such as **** or murder.
     
  3. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean radically right wing.

    Laws and the behavior of prosecutors vary from state to state, but the Austin incident happened just as I described, and I'm willing to bet that the guy would have gotten away with it in just about any state south of the Mason Dixon. If I recall correctly, the law was recently changed in Florida to allow people to fire any time they "feel threatened."

    As I've already said, the laws are certainly not this permissive all over the country, especially not in major urban areas that have issues with gun crime, but Robson's insinuation that Americans by and large can't defend themselves from criminals (especially ones that aren't white) was ridiculous.
     
  4. Thom

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    Way to defend your position asshat.

    Oh wait..you can't because you're completely full of ****.
     
  5. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea..

    It certainly isn't "we can't defend ourselves" but there are so many loopholes that will get you screwed.

    I remember a ridiculous case in Florida where a man walked in the house and tried stealing something and got the **** beaten out of him and he sued the person who beat him up and won. In reality he had the right to use lethal force and if he would've shot him in the head then everything would've been fine.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really depends on the state or city, you can't even get a handgun in some cities.
     
  7. curmudgeon

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    Yep. ****ing commies.

    Strict gun control => some of the worst crime rates.

    At least it is not as bad as in the Big Brother states like Britain and Australia, where you can not even defend yourself at home.

    Full of **** politician playing off commoners fears to rob them of fundamental liberties.
     
  8. ufoalf

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    Tell you what, in Russia it all works out... neither the common people nor the petty thieves have the money to buy guns. So we use "law and order," which is a common name for left fist and right fist... why you think so many good boxers come out of Russia?
     
  9. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Err thats not what happens at all i think you need to learn what the real law is :roll:
     
  10. geppy

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    I have no doubt that Alaxander is no stranger to the Russian prison sysytem to have that many tatooes. All the Tatooes have a meaning, for anyone that cares to find out what his crimes were.