Aleksandr Povetkin in the 30s

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How does he do against HW champions of that era - Schmeling, Baer, Sharkey, Carnera, Braddock and, of course, young Joe Louis?
     
  2. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Loses to all of them.
     
  3. Absolutely!

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    For Christ's sake.
     
  4. reznick

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    He could mix it up well with all of those guys. He might pull out a victory over maybe Braddock.

    But on the 30's guys best night, I'd quickly bet on all of them.
     
  5. Seamus

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    If the Louis is young enough, he beats all of them. The later you get in the 30's and toward Prime Louis, he loses in back and forth affair.

    Alex has top end combo skills, is strong, good on his feet and has A-level finishing ability when in shape. If he comes in out of shape, as he has done a few times, could be a different story against a Schmeling or the rare top-level Sharkey. Still, given his track record, I take Alex.
     
  6. Absolutely!

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    Povetkin mercs all of them except Louis. Carnera might last the distance, as Povetkin isn't historically good against larger fighters, but if you think a tiny journeyman like Braddock or a caveman like Baer beats him then you need to take up another hobby.
     
  7. reznick

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    Braddock and Baer held the undisputed HW belt. Learn the meaning of journeyman.

    Baer is one of the greatest punchers of all time. Baer is much quicker, stronger, smarter than Povetkin. He would probably clown him in the ring. ydksab
     
  8. janitor

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    He might have been champion in the mid 30s, depending upon who his title shot came up against, and a number of other factors.
     
  9. Absolutely!

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    You're a case in point. Baer was quicker and smarter than Povetkin? Are you fcuking kidding me? The fact that you can look at Baer and look at Povetkin and come to such a wildly idiotic conclusion tells me you're either biased as fcuk (pretty obvious) and/or have no notion of what you're looking at.

    Re: Braddock, it doesn't need to be repeated that he won the title against all odds, against a champ, I might add, who was known for being wildly inconsistent and prone to half-assing it both in the ring and in training. His holding the title was not a particular reflection of his own great quality so much as a reflection of the paucity of quality in the era as a whole.
     
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  10. mrkoolkevin

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    What makes you say that Baer was much quicker or smarter than Povetkin?
     
  11. Seamus

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    Povetkin is leagues above Baer in both quickness and skillset. If you can't see that on film, then I think we are just living in separate universes.
     
  12. Absolutely!

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    Think you're arguing with the wrong bloke there.
     
  13. reznick

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    Just watch Klitschko-Povetkin side by side with Baer-Carnera.

    Baer is way quicker! He's lighter on his feet, and boxes better from the outside using way more lateral movement, and stepping in and out to keep Carnera guessing. He's way faster and more explosive in his big punches. Povetkin can throw some bombs, but Baer throws much bigger combinations that are more powerful.

    Povetkin tried some overhands early in the fight, and then plodded his way into Klitschkos weight clinches.

    It's night and day.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxF4QzdEDnQ
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Baer was a true ring scientist. Don't sweat the technique: https://streamable.com/4q29
     
  15. reznick

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    Tell me, what about this clip points to bad technique?

    A slowed down play on uppercuting an arm out of the way?