Aleksandr Povetkin in the 30s

Cruiserweights don't cut that much weight if at all. Some cruisers come in, in the lower 190s and others come in at the upper 190s. Those that do cut weight aren't cutting that much because a 10 lb advantage is negligible at 200 lbs. It's not worth the health risks nor being dehydrated.

 

Holyfield is always quick to clarify "Foreman HIT ME the hardest", he's not saying Tyson or Bowe or Lewis or Cooper or Douglas etc. didn't hit as hard, it's just that he thinks Foreman landed the hardest punch respective of his fights with these men.

 

Golovkin isn't perfect by any means but I thought he beat the f--k out of Brook last night.
Brook came to fight and made it 'competitive' but Golovkin just beasted him.

Golovkin is 34 years old, been professional 10 years.
I'm sure he must cut weight to get to 160.

 

Well he was only 209 against Povetkin in his heavyweight fight.
I'm guessing that's his maximum then.

 

During round 5 Golokin started to really give Brook a beating but up until then I thought Brook was doing good. Golovkin cuts weight to make 160 but not anything more than usual. The difference between Golovkin and Louis is Louis hadn't been below 200 for a while, 7 fights to be exact, whereas Golovkin has made 160 for the last 10 years. It wouldn't all of a suddenly be hard to get down to 160.

 

Louis didn't have to make weight at all. But I do think he was a bit too light against Conn.

"It wouldn't all of a suddenly be hard to get down to 160." ...... and yet there are hundreds of fighters who use that very excuse.

Louis KTFO of Conn.
And Golovkin battered Brook.
No excuses needed for either of them.

 

Louis didn't HAVE to come in under 200 for Conn he just wanted to and when his managers found out there were pissed. I read it in a book written by his son that contains interviews from close friends, relatives, boxers, and managers.

Golovkin made 160 comfortably in his last fight. Louis and Golovkin are not the same principle is all I am saying.

 

Joe stated on "The way it was" that he purposefully trained down to below 200 pounds because he was hearing that Conn was not going to break 170. He did not want it announced that Conn was under 170 pounds and he was over 200. Because of this he felt weak during the fight.

 

Thanks. This is what I read as well in a biography on Joe Louis.

 

If reports are to believed, Sasha wasn't exactly Spartan in training for Huck. And perhaps that was the same scenario for Louis against Conn. I can't recall reading much about his preparation.[/QUOTE]
Louis seems to have prepared diligently, but he made some mad decisions, such as dehydrating himself to cut his weight (the contract said that he had to be under 200lbs).
[/QUOTE]Sh*t happens in fights, especially at heavyweight. If an elite fighter takes his foot off the gas, even a bit, he can be in for a rough night against someone not of his caliber but who is hungry and motivated. We've seen this scenario innumerable times.[/QUOTE]
Innumerable times, I agree.

We have to consider the possibility however, that these smaller fighters enjoyed relative success, because they were smaller/faster/better pounf for pound![/QUOTE]

Are you suggesting that if Louis had fought Henry Armstong, that he would have been the best Joe had faced because of his pound for pound greatness?

You are steering towards the looney bin with these contentions.

 

That is an extremely unrealistic comparison.

 

It's likely the weight he fights at Cruiserweight as well, factoring in rehydration.

 

Of course I am not suggesting that.

I am saying that since Louis's key advantage over most of his opponents was speed, a fast LHW might give him more problems than the majority of heavyweights.

Sometimes a fighters power improves when they step up!