Alex Ariza - "Arum is Greedy and Selfish; Do What's Best for the Fighter"(video)

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  1. Fighting Pride

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    the most important bit is that it's for a fight expected to break all records and produce the kinds of revenue's never seen before
     
  2. SweetHome_Bama

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    We know about the advances due to the financial auditors that Manny fired at Arum's request. That is also how we know Koncz is corrupted as he gets paid by Manny and Arum.

    They had a 50/50 deal the fight ready to go and Arum kills its over drug testing that Manny now says he never had an issue with. How is that good business for his fighter?
     
  3. showbox

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    the Man is speaking the Truth People that really Follow the Sport and Love the Sport Knows This!!!!!

    BOB did the Same thing With Floyd and Oscar
    Floyd wanted Oscar and Oscar Wanted Floyd and Bob Refused to make the Fight Happen because he Hated Oscar for Leaving TOP RANK!!!!!!!!!
    Dude is Doing the Same sheeeet again!!!!!
    Floyd had to Buy out is Contract to get the Fight, All the Legal papers or on Google!

    It's Not a matter if Floyd Wants the Fight Or if manny Wants the Fight!!!
    They are Fighters This is what they do, and As a Fighter you want to be the best!!!

    Trust me Real Fans of Boxing Knows the Deal With BOB!!!!
     
  4. king khan

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    You have no idea. . . You have not seen anything. . . It's "he said, she said. . . "


    The drug testing came down to a 14 day cut-off for blood tests, vs. a 17-day cut-off. . . Floyd, and Pac both threw the fight away over those 3-days. . .


    At the time the money was 50/50, the numbers they do were no different than now. . The only significant bout Floyd sold more was Oscar/Floyd. . . So if he had that to argue with then, jsut as he does now, why is he not willing to do 50/50?! Why is this not on Floyd? There numbers are shockingly similar with common opponents. . . Manny outsold Floyd 400k with marquez; floyd outsold manny 250k with cotto, and 100k with mosley, and like 75k with hatton. . .

    the onyl reason floyd won't do 50/50 now is because he can fight lower profile guys, who don't demand as much of a percentage of PPV, and make good money. . . When guys like Chavez, Canelo, etc. do this, we call it "cherrypicking."
     
  5. Fighting Pride

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    Oscar left Top Rank in 2000 throught the courts, yet he continued working with them till 2004 and the Hopkins fight. No hard feelings when you're doing good business. What about all the big fights Arum put together for Oscar (and for Mayweather for that matter) against the best fighters who weren't TR, or you conveniently forget that? Floyd wanted $20M at the time to fight Oscar, a figure only Oscar could make and Floyd was nowhere near star. Arum wanted him to fight Margarito, a safer fight from a business standpoint, and Floyd wanted nothing of it unless Arum could gaurantee a bunch of money for other fights which Floyd had never seen in his career. Arum made the sensible business decision at the time and went on to bigger and better things with Pacquiao a fighter easier to promote in the way he liked, as Floyd went on to bigger and better things when he could promote himself.
     
  6. SweetHome_Bama

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    They threw them away? How did they throw it away when Manny now says he has no problem with completely random drug testing and never did? That says he threw it away not Floyd.

    It is no he said she said, it is fact, if Vision Quest was lying the Manny would get them for slander and libel, but he hasn't for good reason, he knows they were there with him and know his finances.

    Floyd now gets 32 million guaranteed and ppv rights, while manny gets 7 million guaranteed. That speaks volumes of how terrible Bob Arum is in looking out for manny.
     
  7. RODNEY MORASH

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  8. tliang1000

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    How about option number2? Is for Pac to leave Arum. Floyd asking for more money is bc he pulls in bigger numbers. All of the stars before him did that so can he...
     
  9. tliang1000

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    I don't think Pac fans want to see Pac fight Floyd tbh. Why are they defending the money issue when floyd bring in bigger numbers? Why are they defending Pac for not wanting to take the test where this is the sport that may kill you. I like both fighters but one is clearly at the right.
     
  10. Fighting Pride

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    All of the stars before him didn't have an equal in Pacquiao breaking PPV records year after year.

    If he was serious he'd offer a split on the PPV atleast, even if it was 60-40, which is imperative for this fight to get made
     
  11. PrinceN

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    Offers a 40mil guy takes 26 mil to fight someone else that pricing yourself out of a fight? Then why is Manny fighting Bradley?:deal
     
  12. tliang1000

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    Floyd got bigger PPVs buddy. are you rounding to the nearest million or what? Pac himself said he will take less money bc he knows that Floyd got bigger numbers, till Arum said NO.
     
  13. PrinceN

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    They dont want to see the fight at all. Remember when Floyd got his jail sentence moved they were making all kinds of excuses why Manny could not fight Floyd. They were also saying **** lie "now Floyd want to fight after Manny looked bad"
     
  14. king khan

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    The fact that you actually believe Manny is only guaranteed 7 million tells me all i need to know. . those "guarantees" are NOT what he is actually guaranteed. . It is simply the FIRST guaranteed check that he is cut immediately after the fight. . Pacquiao was guaranteed 22 million agaisnt Marquez, and 26 million against Bradley. . . Those guarantees don't mean anything in how much they end up making anyway, that's just hte bare minimum they make in case the fight is a bust. . . HAHAHA you been reading too many ben thompson articles.


    I did put more of the blame on Manny for not agreeing to Floyd's drug tests. . . But now, that Pac has agreed, why is FLoyd changing his tune about the money? How is that not on Floyd?

    See, that's the difference between me, and you. . I got my eyes wide open, and place blame on both sides, where it is due. . You only believe one side, and refuse to place any blame on Floyd. . at all. . . it's all arum!
     
  15. Fighting Pride

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    Well other side of the coin has Floyd giving up atleast $60-70M to make $32M vs Cotto