Alex Ariza on JMM's conditioning

Or maybe, Ariza is giving the same things to Pac?

You don't get that bulked up and that fast at 40.
You need to at least inject testosterone, unless JMM is a freak of nature and his body still produces it in good amounts at this age.

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Thank you for letting everybody know that most posters at ESB are fatties who never really cared for their body and wouldn't know a thing about bulking up.

 

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I'm a kind hearted man, I kind of feel for these poor *******s who are nervous about now!

 

Both Pac and Marquez would get starched by a welterweight Hearns. 'Scientific training' what a load of bull****.

 

I don't believe Floyd is on anything, but that above does nothing to refute their [the accusers] arguments. Taking and passing those tests mean very little now that it's come to surface that those tests can be covered up and destroyed like they never existed. Floyd and GBP's smokescreen of cleaning up the sport has come crashing down after the revelations about Morales, Berto and Quillin. Like I suspected before (all be it for different reasons), this "I'm cleaning up boxing" was huge a pile of horse****.

 

MarqROID is not clean until he takes the test!!!

 

You must be related to Farmboxer. Or is it you Farmy!

 

Ariza is hardly gonna accuse JMM of being on roids when the whole controversy originated from his own fighter being accused of roids. That would be massively hypocritical on record.

Moreover, so what if JMM offered to take the test. Memo is on TV saying he's made 20+ undetectable drugs. Conte and Memo made a career out of supplying Athletes drugs that could dodge Olympic Style Drug Testing, that means 24/7 365 days a year, you think they can't make one for the joke that is boxing testing or even second joke USADA boxing testing? They are hardly gonna refuse a test after getting caught red handed hiring a convicted PED supplier whilst trying to hide his name.

- Why did they try to hide Memo's true identity thus hiding the fact that he was a PED supplier?

- Why now has JMM hired a convicted PED supplier, at a convenient time when Pac was climbing weights and himself was accused of being on PED? Was it not to even the playing field as JMM would think? I dont think its because he's moving up in weight, he's moved up in weight before but he only chose to hire a convicted PED supplier when facing someone who is accused of being on PED.

- Why did they hire an S&C coach who has never worked with boxers, instead only his prison record for supplying PED's? If they didnt know about his record as he hid his name, where did he get his reputation from that he was good? After all, his career was built on his real name, not his fake one.

The going up in weight, getting bigger, retaining speed...I can let that off, its doable with the right training and not necessarily PED's. However when you combine that with the above questions and the fact that JMM's body despite being older and heavier actually looks in the best shape of his life...I mean we saw what going up in weight at older age did for other fighters. Now that can be done through hard work but again, add all the things up above and the fact that again JMM looking like that at a convenient time when all this doubts are on him and its just so blatant.


Again, if we find out tomorrow that Ariza's name is actually Hernandez, busted before for supplying PED's to Olympic athletes, former partner of Balco, on camera bragging about creating undetectable drugs. Meanwhile he's never worked with boxers before, team pac just hired him because they are now fighting an opponent who may be on PED. Are you honestly gonna tell me they only hired him for s&c? ****.

This is as bad as the mexicans believing Margarito was innocent, so in denial.

I dont care if JMM is on PED's. He needs them to go up in weight and match Pac for size. The fight will be determined now by skill. I just think its ridiculous to make a claim that knowing all the above you're gonna say he's clean. It couldn't be more blatant. Strong denial is strong.

 

I made a post about this in the wrong thread so I'll post it here too.

 

Lol @ people putting any value whatsoever in anything Alex Ariza says. For a start he has gone on record as saying he thinks the current drug testing in boxing is good enough and not in need of reform. That should tell you everything you need to know about that guy.

The sooner people start realising that these guys are all as bad as each other then we might actually start making progress with cleaning up the sport. These dumb, naive and partisan fans are part of the problem if you ask me. As long as fans are willing to be fobbed off with the misdirection of untrustworthy 'conditioning coaches', bury their heads in the sand or just sling **** at individual fighters they dislike then there is no real reason for things to change.

I think you can divide this issue up into camps:

There are fan boys who will defend their fighters from absolutely any criticism or allegation, or likewise just use the issue to attack a fighter (but not give two shots about the actual doping).

There are decent but naive people who really don't quite understand the extent of PED use in top level sport, and therefore act as if the likelihood of fighters doping is non-existent because it seems like a really bad, outlandish thing to do when in all actuality it is most likely the norm. This is like the 'Marquez is a good guy, he wouldn't use drugs, even if he has hired one of the leading PED experts and dealers in the sport. He's just training harder . . .' - 'Pacquiao is a good, humble man. He would not cheat, he's just scared of needles and giving blood. He doesn't even know what a steroid looks like' - 'Roy Jones didn't cheat, he just took an over the counter supplement, that's what his legal team said, even if it did take them 3 weeks to come up with'.

There are people who understand that boxing is basically an unregulated sport as far as PEDs are concerned, that the potential rewards from doping are huge as are the risks and that therefore PED use in boxing is likely to be as high if not higher as other sports.

 

quality post :good

 

Good post mate.

Feels like banging your head against a ****ing wall.