Alex Ariza on JMM's conditioning

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Smokin' Joe, Nov 27, 2012.


  1. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Have to admit. Some compelling points, there.
     
  2. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Juan is clean, until proven otherwise. Training a boxer theses days is definitely a team effort. Hernandez had a sketchy past, so did Conte..but its time to move on. The role of a strength & conditioning coach is essential and I think the 2011-2012 Marquez made a wise choice in selecting this guy, based on his credentials. JMM is older but the man is operating on an elite level. I'm excited for this fight. Could be the best one yet!
     
  3. Smokin' Joe

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    Why don't people drag Usain Bolt's name through the mud like they do with JMM?
     
  4. mishima

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    because this is a boxing forum
     
  5. mishima

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    good choice... he is now on a level playing field
     
  6. Smokin' Joe

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    There's countless websites on the net talking about JMM's alleged PED use. Not much about Bolt?

    Also works with Heredia.
     
  7. mishima

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    Heredia is not Bolt's strength coach(so maybe the connection between is not as clear?) but I'm sure many of the sprinters at the 100m final are on something
     
  8. Smokin' Joe

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    What's it matter? He was a 'track coach'. He was part of his team. Therefore people should be equally as suspicious about Bolt as they are about anyone else he works with.
     
  9. mishima

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    they should be... just as ESB posters who are not suspicious of Marquez
     
  10. the_truth

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    Ariza knows he cant throw verbal jabs or accusations, because the truth will then be told. Most of these guys know how to beat the system:D
     
  11. Smokin' Joe

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0OVpyvey4U[/ame]


    Everyone! The entire sporting World!
     
  12. anj

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    JMM looks like an actual monster.

    BUT does he really have the SPEED now that he's moved up in weight?

    Manny tagged him a lot and got the better of him in the last fight in the way of speed (only).
     
  13. Smokin' Joe

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    He looked visibly slower in that fight.
     
  14. shaunster101

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    You think Bolt is clean?

    Because Angel Heredia, the strength and conditioning coach,
    who by your own admission was hired by Marquez for his expertise in maximising the capabilities of the human body, who has worked with the highest level of Olympic athletes and knows EXACTLY what they're capable of both on and off drugs, is absolutely convinced that he isn't.

    http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/172626-performance-enhancing-drugs-professional-sports-long-interview.html

    From the horse's mouth:

    SPIEGEL: Mr. Heredia, will you watch the 100 meter final in Beijing?

    Heredia: Of course. But the winner will not be clean. Not even any of the contestants will be clean.

    SPIEGEL: Of eight runners ...

    Heredia: ... eight will be doped.

    SPIEGEL: There is no way to prove that.

    Heredia: There is no doubt about it. The difference between 10.0 and 9.7 seconds is the drugs.

    SPIEGEL: Can drugs make anyone into a world record holder?


    Heredia: No, that is a misapprehension: “You take a couple of tablets today and tomorrow you can really fly.” In reality you have to train inconceivably hard, be very talented and have a perfect team of trainers and support staff. And then it is the best drugs that make the difference. It is all a great composition, a symphony. Everything is linked together, do you understand? And drugs have a long-term effect: they ensure that you can recover, that you avoid the catabolic phases. Volleyball on the beach might be healthy, but peak athletics is not healthy. You destroy your body. Marion Jones, for example ...

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    So assuming you think Bolt is clean, what makes you more knowledgeable on the matter than Juan Manuel Marquez's expert S&C coach?
     
  15. Smokin' Joe

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    Track sports aren't my thing, so I don't know or care.

    You think the entire sporting world is on PEDs?