Alex Ariza suggests Oscar de la Hoya should fight again

Good post:good plus how can anyone say oscars bored when he golfs by choice

 

Does this means that the fishnets photo scandal could be real, maybe he was high on crack when he did it

 

Come back?

DLH needs to stay retired. Worst possible thing he can do is to get back into the ring. They guy has done enough and not hurting for money. The problem he has is time, the wrong people in his click, and his feud with Arum. Feuding with Arum is enough to drive any man crazzy. Add that in with people who are with you because you are Golden boy and drug users themselves and you'll have issues.

 

to say he lost to tito is dumb
as is the second shane fight.

also vargas and quartay arent notable wins... hmmm sounds like not a bad resume

 

Are you a bit slow? Also, have you ever heard of a guy named Ike Quartey? Hector Camacho? Also... how on earth do you consider only Oscar's losses his career defining fights? You do realize that he was a mega super star and a sure fire hall of famer before he was ever even robbed against Trinidad... don't you?

Also, it's hilarious that you list Chavez as "very old" when he fought Oscar. Chavez was only 33 years old and he was the reigning Champion. Not only that, but Chavez didn't lose another fight for over 3 years afterward to anybody not named Oscar De La Hoya. What is even more funny about you calling Chavez "Very old"... Is that Oscar De La Hoya was older
AND more much more inactive than Chavez when he lost to Mayweather and Pac. Which you list as Oscar's "Career defining fights".

Also... you call Champions and ATG's like Chavez and Whitaker "Not cream of the crop contenders at the time".... THEY WERE THE CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION WHEN OSCAR MOVED UP IN WEIGHT TO BEAT THEM.

You need to dust up on your boxing knowledge or stop posting.

 

Sturm vs Oscar, that was the worst fight ever for Hoya, he was so out of shape and he clearly lost that fight for like 6 points, amazing what money can do

 

**** what Alex Ariza says!!!!

 

Watch the fight again, you are overexaggerating. Definitely Oscar's worst performance outside of the Pac fight. Definitely the most out of shape Oscar that has ever been in the ring. However, watch the fight.. watch Oscar's body work. Watch Sturm get stuck on the jab and not follow up. I had Oscar winning 7 rounds to 5. Like Freddie Roach said afterward... he had Oscar winning.... but when you have a fight like that, where people are so surprised to see a guy like Sturm competing with a star like Oscar... people give the underdog the benifit of the doubt at every turn and end up giving too much credit to Sturm.

 

Don't want to see him fight again at all, as big a **** as he is he doesn't deserve to take more punishment.

His record speaks for itself - he's one of the most over-rated, over-promoted guys that ever fought. Pretty much every big fight he was in, he lost.

 

This coming from the guy that claimed Oscar didn't quit against Pac, was ahead on the cards against Hopkins, and beat Mayweather. I think we can take your opinion with a grain of salt on the Sturm fight, amongst other Oscar losses :rofl

 

Jesus Christ Widdow, you were the biggest DLH nutswinger on this board when he was still on top.
It was embarrassing to see you defend DLH over Sturm back then, but for you to still being doing it is ridiculous.
......even DLH has gone on record and stated that Sturm beat him that night.


This thread is'nt even about defending DLH's resume, yet you still feel the need to do so.

Get over it. DLH's boxing legacy has been written. Historians dont rate him anywhere close to where you believe he should be.

Bottom line is that DLH's defining fight came against a post Trinidad, Fernando Vargas.
That should tell you all there is to know about DLH's resume.

 

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he talks about how he would be partying or gambling in his hotel and the craving for a fight would help him crawl out of his self destructive behavior.

If it wasn’t for his back problems, Dela hoya probably can make a good comeback and fight Chavez Jr. Its not a “good” idea, but it would not really hurt anymore than a drug or alcohol binge to his long term health.

If he hadn’t been brutalized by Pacquiao and weight loss, a farewell fight against Chavez jr. would have been pretty cool considering his past with Chavez, always considered the pretender among Mexican fans despite beating Chavez handily twice. For Delahoya, he could have fought competitively with Jr. and passed the torch gracefully. It makes me cringe when people call Delahoya a “quitter” because of his last fight.

On the other hand, Golden Boy Promotions might be making him stressed more than boxing ever did.

 

Another guy who doesn't know what he's talking about. Not as if you ever do though.:-( It's guys like you who only call it a big fight when a guy like Oscar loses. Had Oscar beat Shane it wouldn't have been a big fight... had Oscar beat Floyd or Pac, it wouldn't have been a big fight. You would have said that Oscar only beat on a "smaller" man. Hell... you guys were already discrediting those possibly wins before the fights ever happened. You need some new material.

 

Go watch the fight.

BTW... that ISN'T the bottom line. That might be his defining fight FOR YOU... but the rest of the world has different opinions. When people look at the history books 25 years down the road... they aren't going to say "Oh look, De La Hoya's defining fight came against Fernando Vargas." They will see with unbiased eyes that he took on two highly ranked ATG fighters, in their prime... WHILE HE WAS STILL RATHER GREEN... and moving UP in weight to fight both of them while they were the current Champs of their division. No matter how much you try to discount his wins over Whitaker and Chavez, history will look back on it differently, just as it always does. People will also see his great wins against the others already mentioned... as they will also sit down to watch his robberies against Tito and Mosley. They will see a fighter who fought nothing but the best in the world, and if he didn't beat them he fought on Par with ALL of them, outside of Pac of course. They will see a fighter who was basically inactive, retired, and coming off of an injury to only lose a Split decision against Prime Floyd Mayweather.

You can discredit Oscar all you want, and you can jump on my jock too. However, in the end... reality wins... you are on the wrong side of it.

 

I said that Oscar fought on even terms with Hopkins before the knockout. Which was exactly on par with what everyone else INCLUDING HOPKINS was saying at the time. Hell, Hopkins came out directly afterward saying that he felt that he was LOSING to Oscar going into that round, pointing out that he even asked his cornermen who was winning the fight. So, go take your argument up with Bernard Hopkins, not me.

Oscar didn't quit against Pac. His corner stopped the fight. You didn't watch the fight, or you simply don't understand the difference. I said that Oscar never argued against the stoppage, and rightfully so... it was the right move by his corner. Oscar never came back to his corner asking them to stop the fight. He was basically non-responsive to them asking him, and let them make the call. Had the corner not stopped the fight, Oscar would have got off of his stool and fought the next round. Simple as that. Was there any reason for that fight to continue?

I am sure you had Tito and Mosley in the second fight beating Oscar as well. You are that amazing and unbiased.