Alexander/Kotelnik: Worth a Second Look

Agreed. I personally thought it was 116-112, but it was clear to me when I watched the fight who was winning the majority of the rounds. I thought Lederman and the judges were right on the money.

 

Manny landed 20% (total) of his punches on Clottey while 'working the angles', including only 3% of his jabs.

DA landed 19% (total) on Kotelnik.

 

:deal
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw his scrore after R4.
After round one I was ok with his score, it could go any way, after R2 i thought this round was AK for sure, specially after they showed the compubox stats. Then Lederman continues his BS score and tries to explain that DA is landing more jabs, when in fact according to compubox thats not true.
Hell Lederman gave all first 6 rounds to DA, which was imposibble to see even if you're half blind or hecka biased. Me and my brother knew that AK couldnt win it on points, and were rooting for a KO to happen either way so that it could end fair.

 

Lederman please take your head out of your ass, and dont forget wipe your eyes, so you can score a fight. I had kotelnik 117-111, DA only outlanded the air and cloves

 

It seems the art of blocking here is a negative skill, because they count a block as a hit?

 

I watched the fight again and nothing has changed, 7-4-1. Devon won the first half of the fight and closed out strong.

 

i had it close 114-113 Kotelnik

 

I had almost the same score. You could have given every round to Kotelnik actually because the ones were Kotelnik didn't obviously win were somewhat close.

 

I find it staggering that anyone can have it close. I was really struggling to find rounds to give to Alexander. I have no allegiance, and if anything I would have preferred Alexander to win. I had it 118-113 for Kotelnik. The biggest robbery I've seen in a while.

The post fight reactions clearly show who had won the fight. Alexander knew he had lost. Kotelnik knew he had won

 

:good:yep:happydeal

 

Your not suppose to give credit for someone thowing punches that are blocked

 

Its alright. Everybody knows about your credibility...

 

I think a lot of us are fairly spot on with scoring. DA won very few rounds IMO.

The only questionable rds are 1,2,3, and 12.

Personally I only gave him 1 and 2 and rd2 was generous but he was thumping so many more punches but not landing clean.

So I ended up 10-2

Here is why this fight was a robbery,
1) Clean EFFECTIVE punching was hands down to AK. Da threw a ton more but rarely landed anything other than to the gloves. Sme of his shots didnt even hit anything but air
2) Ring generalship. AK clearly was the man walking down DA. He pressed in and countered beautiful while DA moved away and ate shots.
3) Defense. Really no debate here as the Ak picked off what seemed like 8/9 out of 10 of DA's shots.he moved well and the high guard was a total stump to DA.
4) Effective aggression. AK m,oving forward landing the choice shots, pressing the fight forward is what effective aggression is. Moving away while jabbing someones guard is exactly what ineffective aggression is.

based on these 4 criteria How can anyone score this fight for DA. The score was a farce and Ak was unjustly given a loss.

***Oh on Edit my inital score was 10-2

On rewatch I think 11-1 is the more accurate score.***

 

Zakman you are generally a ok guy and can spot a china chin a mile away but you are notorious for having no clue how to score fights.

Fights are scored on EFFECTIVE and CLEAN punching as 1 of the main criteria ... not just throwing punches on guard or air...... for the love of god you must think Sam Soliman is a P4P ATG.

 

I think you're spot on.

I admit I'm biased and for AK before the fight, but when I reviewed the fight, I tried as much as possible to give DA the slack in scoring, I just can't figure out how he won.