Alexander Povetkin 6'2'' Monster Warrior who would destroy Wilder!

But you have no evidence fighter A from time period B, beats fighter C from period D. You need to know who wins, and it is impossible to determine the victor through hypothetical means.

 

your younger brother is Sonny Liston!?

well I be danged.

 

well yeah, prime tim nearly beat prime larry old shot2shyte larry beats mercer comfortably.

its not rocket science. prime tim vs mercer? witherspoon would shut mercer out.

 

so.... you mean that by your reasoning, Larry holmes prime might get koed in round 1 by Gary Cornish?

HEY BRO YOUR ARGUMENT IS SOOOO STRONG.

 

Ray Mercer was inexperienced when he faced him. Experience can trump athletic advantages. It is impossible to determine how good one era is simply by looking at tapes. Looking good on tape means very little, you need actual head to head confrontation to determine who is more skilled.

 

holmes and mercer fought head to head.

 

For those of you who can't read (this is probably wasted):

mirkofilipovic isn't saying Liston weren't any good and that Huck is better. He is saying the complete oposite, that Liston were great in his time and that you i no objective way compare how these fighters would fair today.

Foremans opinion is subjective, knuckle size irelevant, resumes mainly tell you about acomplishments and not the skill level since to many factors play into different fight. Sure you can measure speed but if that is a such an important factor Amir Kahn would rule the world.

 

Foreman weighed 260 pounds, and had amazing knock out power. He was given GIFT decisions, and was getting outboxed by Moorer until the knockout. Moorer was a SMALL heavyweight. Foremans power was what saved him that day, not his skill. BIG difference.

 

You cannot determine which era is better based on video footage atsch That is the most illogical conclusion anyone has ever brought up. How fighters from a different time period look in COMPARISON to their competition does not equate to knowing the skill levels between fighters from different era's. Foreman is obviously going to be biased (Does he have a magical orb that can help him see how fighters will do in different era's? hypothetically? There is no way he can know that) You are talking about a man who was getting outboxed by Moorer up until the knock out, and was given gift decisions in his second career. What kept Foreman relevant in the modern game was his knock out power, and the fact that he weighed 250 pounds, he was no small heavyweight anymore, the people he faced were technically superior, but physically inferior, the size advantage plus his knock out power made him dangerous against the small heavyweights he competed against. Foreman did NOT have the superior skills you so claim he does. Would Sonny Liston look good on tape when he is facing Povetkin? Or will Povetkin wobble Liston back and forth, and make him look awful? It is all relative, it is all subjective to the core. There is NO SOUND science to quantify skill levels, and even less to compare eras. How one fighter looks like in era B, does not equate to similar success in era C. Looking good against opponents in the 1970's, does not mean they will look good against opponents from different eras in hypothetical matchups.

At the end of the day, this entire notion is all subjective, driven largely by NOSTALGIA, NATIONALISM, ELITISM and IGNORANCE. There is NO evidence whatsoever to back up your claim that Povetkin will get beaten by Liston, NONE. So anything is wishful thinking. I see NOTHING impressive by looking at old boxing tapes, BUT if you are the type that is biased, and believes the past was superior, you will look at these tapes and see superior boxers. You see what you WANT to see, if you are biased you will see old boxing tapes and believe these guys are the real deal, it depends largely on what you want to see.

 

Foreman was outboxed and lost UD to jimmy Young.

 

Axel Schultz beat the **** out of Foreman, Foreman gave up his IBF title rather than fight a rematch.................Vlad knocked Schultz out in the 8th round................