Alexander Povetkin Is A Long Time RUSADA Client

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  1. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Alexander Povetkin has been a long time client of RUSADA drug testing. Meaning, he has always used them to conceal his steroid usage.

    Remember when the Klitscho-Povetkin match was being negotiated and they hit a stand still in agreeing?

    The sticking point was Povetkin and Ryabinsky's insistence that the drug testing be performed by RUSADA, but Klitscho refused and wanted the testing done by German test agency NADA.

    Ryabinsky offered to compromise where Vlad would be tested by NADA and Povetkin would be tested by RUSADA.
    Ryabinsky also wanted the testing to be performed by RUSADA during Povetkin's training camp and not after the fight, but Vlad refused this and requested post fight drug testing.

    I wonder which agency is doing the tests for Wilder-Povetkin now that RUSADA has been banned from sports pending the investigation of their hiding test results and even assisting their Russian clients in using steroids and PEDs?
     
  2. Pac a G

    Pac a G Guest

    Floyd + USADA
     
  3. PolishNavy

    PolishNavy Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Povetkin is certainly juicing after the Klitchko loss. He looks much bigger and he has more power. Since experiencing his only defeat he has ko'd 4 in a row all of whom only had 1 defeat. Char was 26-1, Takam 30-1-1, Perez 21-1-1, Wach 31-1.
    Takam, Perez and Wach all have never been knocked out before and Char's only loss before Povetkin ko'd him was a ko defeat to the great Vitali Klitschko.
    There is no doubt Povetkin is juicing.
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Yep, they're even known to be even far worse as USADA when it comes to letting offenders walk, and is now even suspeded by WADA.
    RUSADA's current status is currently like US anti doping agencies in the 80's.

    But, when you're a Russian, and fighting in Russia, there's not much to chose from, so nothing on Povetkin here
    That's why the last 2 foreign boxers caught by RUSADA actually walked free without even being retested, which I think is a step too far.
    It effectively means that in boxing it's a free for all now, probaly why Roy loves boxing over there ;)

    Still no valid reason for Wilder to run with his tail between his legs.
     
  5. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    From the concern Vlad had in their pre-fight negotiations, I'm sure Povetkin was juicing even then, and from his insistence of excluding RUSADA from participating, Vlad seemed to be aware of it.

    BTW; The Perez KO was just a lucky shot, or perhaps, he was drugged before the bout. :hey
     
  6. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Of course Wilder isn't running from a fat dude he knows he can beat. To ignore the very strong possibility of being cheated in a land found guilty of massive cheating is an action only a dummy would embrace. :smoke
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where are the TMT Medical and Anti-doping experts?

    Why would an Anti-doping agency lie and hide results for a boxer???
     
  8. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Sorry, not true. RUSADA may have taken the samples for the Klitschko match but...drum roll please...VADA tested them! Accusation dismissed.

    Alexander Povetkin has been cleared numerous times for doping, even when people on the card below have been caught.

    Wach was found to be doping against Povetkin while Povetkin was COMPLETELY CLEAN.

    Here's the real kicker. The reason that there was a hang up/stall in the Povetkin v Klitschko match was because Klitschko only wanted a single test administered after the match, while Povetkin wanted tests administered all throughout camp and after the match, and the results dealt with by VADA, the most respected of agencies.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  9. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Is there any Russian athlete who isn't a drug cheat?
     
  10. BCS8

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    If Glass Joe is correct ... /end thread.
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Almost every big time Soviet and US athlete that did something special in their careers were either linked with or caught on peds. I think it's something we have to live with.
     
  12. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Sorry, but it's true dude.
    Klitschko had the leverage so the fight's testing was performed by VADA as Vlad specified.
    It was really stupid to want two testing agencies to do testing for each fighter which opened the doors for both agencies to come up with two different results.
    Povetkin asked for "Mayweather' style randon testing, but he wanted RUSADA to do the testing. Of course Vlad refused because Vlad knew how corrupt RUSADA is.
    Povetkin kept insisting that RUSADA be invloved on the front end to collect samples which tainted the testing. RUSADA should never have been involved in the loop. As investigations have proven, RUSADA has far too much experience manufacturing and using the switcheroo on the front and back end of testing. This is exactly why today they are banned from involvement in any aspect of testing.
     
  13. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wrong, and stupid comparison.

    ALL of Russia has been found guilty of Steroid cheating, not the US, UK, or Germany. Only Russia.
    So, trying to muddy the water by implying otherwise is just a weak attempt to lessen the fact that ALL Russia athletes are presently banned from Olympics. Not The US, The UK or any other nation. Just Russia. :smoke
     
  14. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Looking at the fact that ALL Russian athletes are banned from the Olympics would indicate they are all under suspicion.
    The only way a Russian athlete can enter the RIO Olympics is if they;

    1) Register as independents (Not representing Russia)
    2) Undergo Three separate Olympic controlled drug tests

    So, presently, no athlete entering the RIO Olympics can represent Russia.
    RUSADA is currently under total suspension from doing any type of drug testing.
     
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Yep, now
    But I'm talking about every big time Soviet or US athlete out there since peds became an issue. The only US athletes that did something special and never got caught admitted or highly suspected were Phelps and Sampras as far as I know.