Alexander Povetkin is he over rated?

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  1. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While I think Povetkin is a fine over all good fighter with good power and speed and nice boxing skills, I think he is over rated at this point. The guy lacks one punch KO power and is under sized. I think Povetkin is a Russian Jerry Quarry who will do well but never be able to beat a guy like Wladimir who has far more talent.:deal
     
  2. TanstA

    TanstA Legendary Full Member

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    Until he faces someone elite this could be said.
     
  3. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you go by what they've done that's comparable, what's to say Wlad has more talent? He's bigger and very athletically gifted, but there's nothing to say Povetkin can't beat him, because with experience he'll fight in a way that bothers Wladimir. And if you go by what they've both done-Povetkin was a better amateur and has done more in his first fights than Wlad did in a comparable number of fights.
     
  4. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Povetkin is the real thing. His defense seems to be glaringly wide open, but he does have skill, speed, and a very aggressive, always press forward style that I love to watch. He brings the fight to his opponent, period.

    His fight with Byrd will be a very telling fight. It should be a real test for Povetkin, given that he's now on in the upper tier and is in against a very fast and very slick fighter in Byrd who can probably still beat 8 out of the current top 10.

    I can't wait to see this one. If Povetkin can beat Byrd, I would then put him in the top five or six.
     
  5. mykolakozak

    mykolakozak Active Member Full Member

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    Povetkin has a much better amateur resume than Wlad, But he is not of the same class as Wlad, unless the younger bro wants to fight till he is 40, by then Povetkin will probably destroy him. Until then I doubt.
     
  6. achillesthegreat

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    To date his record speaks for itself. He continues to improve with Byrd next. If he beats Byrd he will be a proven top contender. After Byrd he'll have to face Brock-Chambers winner. By the time he gets his title shot he will have earnt it.
     
  7. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in that case he may be the second best in the division. the guy is fighting Byrd and in my opinion will win easily. He's an amatuer superstar who is backing it up in the pro's. I don't think its overrated, its backed up by 13-0 10 ko's over good opening opposition.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I think it's too early to proclaim Povetkin as the "savior of the heavyweight division," but he is a really good fighter. He throws sharp, snappy, quick combinations to the body and the head and puts the pressure on his opponents. His fight with Byrd next month should tell us more about him. If he wins impressively, he becomes a top 10 heavyweight. I like the Jerry Quarry comparison.
     
  9. huki

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    So just because he doesn't have one punch KO power and is undersized he's overrated? Povetkin is the only prospect (or near contender now) that deserves the hype he gets. There's no other prospect in boxing that's taking such quick steps up and dominating his opponents so easily. Add the amateur record in and just plain looking at the way he fights and you get a guy who actually deserves the hype.

    For his next match, Byrd will be a test and a great win but not the best test he could get right now. He is past it and there's no way he'll handle a high output swarmer with power/speed/timing like Povetkin at this point. I can't believe there are a significant number of people picking Byrd to outbox him for 12 rounds. Hopefully that means the odds might be close on sportsbooks.
     
  10. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    byrd is far too past it to beat him. i believe at his best he would make povetkin feel silly but now its too late for all that. Also Solis has a great chance if he can work off some fat. his next fight is Ross Purrity. now sure Purrity was never more than a journeyman and is far past it at this point. but for his 4th fight? outstanding
     
  11. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Byrd fight should be a good indicator.
    Byrd is not what he was, but he was still a top boxer not so long ago and if Povetkin can beat him then that would be the biggest win of his career.
     
  12. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    AP is a good fighter with good skills...I think he will hold a belt one day. That said, I have heard everything from he will be the number one p4p fighter alive to that he will be a bum once he faces a good fighter. Quite honestly, the truth is in between.

    So do I feel he is overrated? By some....HELL YES!!!
    So do I feel he is underrated? By some...HELL YES!!!

    Im not so sure he is quite ready for Byrd yet tho. Byrd is still a very very good defensive fighter, with some speed and an above average offensive repetoir (spell check???). Would I be surprised to see AP beat him, nah...but I slightly still favor Byrd in this one.
     
  13. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    iunno man i can't see byrd winning this. i see them setting povetkin up for a beatdown against wlad. makes me sad. i'd like to see hio fight about a year or 2 more before he goes for that.
     
  14. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Dont get me wrong...I could very well see AP winning, but at this point in his career, he has never seen a fighter like Byrd in the pros. Byrd's style can make him a nightmare for almost anyone (dont just go by his fight vs Wlad...Byrd tried to come forward all day and never fought "his" fight...dumbest strategy I have EVER seen). So just as I could see him beating Byrd, I think there is just as big, if not more of a chance that he could get thoroughly taken out of his game.

    Byrd isnt as bad as people make him out to be.
     
  15. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats only because his style cannot work against Wlad. so his only chance was to hope he could reach him and that wlads chin was as bad as some people think.