Alexander Povetkin is the number 2 heavyweight right now no doubt

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  1. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    I'm just saying that he used OTC weak shite that you can buy in stores. Luis Ortiz test positive for Ananabolic Steriods twice.
     
  2. The Long Count

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    1. So far Povetkin tested positive for trace amounts of meldonium a legal substance until January. His meldonium levels were so low they were within the allowable limit. Now he has tested positive for Orastine a drug that is banned but is readily available for purchase at your local health store. We should wait until after the due process takes its course before we rush to judgement.
    2. I'm not trying to be flippant maybe cynical but I believe performance enhancers are rampant in the sport and the fighters are a step ahead of the testers (they always are) I believe the vast majority of elite boxers are some articificial enhancer or another. Quite simply these drugs, many legal to purchase, are just to available and there is too much incentive not to take them.
    3. I won't take away from Povetkin's skill because of a test. Do we take away Roy Jones skill because he used ped's or Throw away Holyfield's career. We can objectively judge a fighters ability while keeping there boosters and the morality of taking them mutually exclusive.
     
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  3. flem1

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    You can say ostarine is legal and OTC but there are reasons why it is banned since 2008 by WADA.

    There's no excuse for Povetkin here. He is a PED cheat.

    I get it that your a Pov fan but you gotta admit it. He failed his fans and boxing.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    obviously u do but don't write it 3 times.
     
  5. The Long Count

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    I'm not a Povetkin fan I do respect his talent. I said on another thread I'm not defending him. He's a dummy for taking this stuff especially after the meldonium fiasco cost him his chance at a title.

    I get tired of everyone on here trying to label this guy or that guy a cheat based on who they like and don't like. In all honesty most fighters are on something- like this ostarine available over the counter. Mayweather was on something, Pacquaio for a time was on something, Joshua, Povetkin it's not about color or nationality it's about opportunity drugs are rampant in the sport. Because Povetkin was an idiot and seemingly was caught I feel he should be suspended and serve his time but I'm not so quick to label and judge because then I have to do it for everyone and say James Toney was a dirty cheat. Roy Jones was a dirty cheat. Tommy Morrison was a dirty cheat. Etc etc the list will be quite long if I do that and then it's like why even watch the fights anymore. More guys are on stuff today than in the 90s actually which means in the 90s the playing field was even more unbalanced then it is today.
    There is no easy solution. Boxing is and always will be a dirty sport one way or another.
     
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  6. Champagne Popping

    Champagne Popping The TRUTH is the TRUTH banned Full Member

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    Well clearly Fury, Klitscko and Povetkin are the top 3 heavyweights un the world but Fury and Klitschko are inactive. So its common sense for any unbiased poster...


    Itsa shame your race cannot fight to save their life you depressed, unathletic, inbred , Indian mentally ill loser.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you've ignored the other title holders so no its not commonsense to at least you.
    BUT fury beat wlad, whilst pov was beating up helpless nobodies whom anybody would beat.

    though this is misplaced racism ,its still racism and will be reported. See you again in the new year if I decide to do so.
     
  8. flem1

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    What's the point of writing all that wall of text. Yes we know boxing is a dirty sport and there are fighters out there who are on to something.

    I love watching Pov's fights but he is rightly labeled as a PED cheat regardless whether you like him or not.

    He got caught twice and now he beat up Duhaupas who was totally unprepared and out of shape.

    Povetkin is a disgrace. Ryabinski is also a disgrace for allowing his PED cheat fighter to fight.
     
  9. Champagne Popping

    Champagne Popping The TRUTH is the TRUTH banned Full Member

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    Well theres no way wilder and parker are better than Povetkin and Joshua has fought absolutely no one to even be in the debate.Povetkin has a very good resume you racist troll..clearly he has by far the 2nd best resume in the HW division after Wlad.

    Ooh report me then you total *****. You inbred mentally ill freak.. you probably live in a indian mental health home youve been doing this racist trolling malarkey to all the top white fighters for over a decade.You are an extremely depressed, bitter, racist, lonely, jealous loser.
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you've been defeated on this point so lets move on - explain my racism?

    I dont need to explain yours!

     
  11. Orca

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    I don't care how rampant they may or may not be, the fight to keep that sh!t out of boxing should step up a gear. It will never be OK. Never. I'm happy to take away from Povetkin skill. He's a cheat man and I'm disappointed a fellow boxing fan feels the way you do. If your favourite fighter got outclassed and beaten down by a guy that was on ped's, would you give him credit for his sublime skills and ignore the failed test? Some day there will be a fatality in a fight and the 'winner' will fail a test. Things will get very serious and the mainstream media will crucify the sport we love.
     
  12. Champagne Popping

    Champagne Popping The TRUTH is the TRUTH banned Full Member

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    You're a total joke mate from a nation of failures. In a sport which whites have the most world champs of any race you choose to waste your life with anti white trolling.. its unbelievable how long youve been doing this
    All the top white fighters of recent years you constantly hate on and try to minimize their achievements non stop in a sly trolling way.
    Calzaghe, Klitschko's in particular.
    I don't see you doing this ever on black fighters

    You are beyond help, Ive always felt the depression and bitterness in your posts. Euthanasia..
     
  13. The Long Count

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    Ok fine that's your opinion. Do you feel that way about the other fighters I listed? I was trying to give you a nuanced reply but I can see you're in the "I hate this guy" my guy rocks camp. So be it. To each his own. To be honest ostarine is not a anabolic steroid it has "benefits similar" but if he is going to labeled a disgrace I hope you do it for everyone.

    Well I hope you feel the same way about Holyfield, and Roy Jones and lot of other fighters who took ped's. I wish the sport could get cleaned up but I wouldn't hold my breath. And yes if someone were to pass away it would be tragic and the sport would be crucified. And for your comment about a fighter I like losing to a ped cheater i watched many times where my fighter lost to someone that was on steroids.
     
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    the nation that this year held 2/3rds of the major HW world titles.

    You appear to be continuing your self destruction. There is no need for me to add a counter argument, you have provided it yourself.

    I shall leave you to continue destroying yourself.
     
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