Haye was never out 'clean', 'cold' or unconscious. Takam was out clean against Povetkin during his prime, 3 years before Joshua faced a faded and washed up Takam and Joshua's hardest punches bounced of Takam like they were nothing. Get real! Joshua doesn't hit as hard as you may seem to think! Joshua will need more than 20 rounds to KO Povetkin if he failed to KO Takam in 10 rounds.
And boxing is boxing and punching is punching. Getting knocked out in the amateurs is worse than getting knocked out in the pros due to bigger gloves, more padded gloves and headgear existing for protection. And Wilder and Joshua have both been knocked out embarrassingly against smaller heavyweights and worse heavyweights than Povetkin. The much smaller Povetkin compared to Joshua or Wilder has never been stopped in his amateur or pro career = FACT! Deal with it!
That's what others are also doing here too in favor of Joshua to prove how Joshua would beat Povetkin. I can also do the same in favor of povetkin. Difference is, my position is more logical than those others using Joshua's win against Wladimir Klitschko as somehow evidence of Joshua being favorite to beat Povetkin. Name me one boxer who knocked out another boxer out cold, clean or unconscious that then went on to fight Wladimir Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko also failed to KO that same boxer cleanly. Go ahead! I challenge uyou! David Haye doesn't count because last time I checked, the fight was stopped whilst Haye was still on his feet against that 40 year old cruiser weight.
Some of you guys have more faith in Povetkin than he does in himself..... The guy believes he needs to cheat to beat Wilder.....
so, someone else being dumbazz is your free pass for being dumbazz too? pretty soon we'll have a forum of dumbazz posts. no, make sense start NOW please. YOU need an argument that holds water.
Enlighten us on the supposed 'cheating'. Since the last time I checked, they never boxed against each other in the ring. And Povetkin has enough faith in himself to willfully choose to become the mandatory challenger to Joshua's and Wilder's title. Even at age 39. That should tell you all you need to know about Povetkin's 'belief'.
I'm not a dumb ass because my argument is logical whilst theirs isn't, even though the arguments are similar (but not exactly the same). How about you answer my question or you expose yourself as the real dumb ass here?
Joshua's soft and weak punches were too weak to even KO a washed up, already knocked out cleanly Carlos Takam. Povetkin walks through Joshua and destroys him worse than Mihai Nistor did.
WAIT - U JUST SAID THEY WERE BEING DUMB SO WHY CANT U... and now u claim the reverse? wtf? you dont even know what u are saying! how does me NOT writing anything, the opposite of YOU writing DUMBAZ post, make me dumbaz? I am categorically NOT doing what u do.
Who did I claim was 'dumb'? Where did I write 'dumb' in reference to someone? You are a dumb ass if you are unable to answer a simple question that was asked in relation to the topic that you raised. It shows you are a 'dumb ass' because it shows your inability and incompetency.
Failed drugs Test prior to the Wilder fight..... A guy who believes he can win clean doesn't fail a drugs test.