Alexander Povetkin vs. David Tua.

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  1. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Povetkin outboxes limited Tua to an UD.
     
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  2. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tua by brutal ko!
     
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  3. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tua gets outboxed, then Povetkin gets decapitated. Povetkin at his best v Tua from the Ike fight, and I think even the biggest Pov fans will agree it don't look good..Pov is a good fighter but Tua smash's his jaw off at some stage, styles
     
  4. Birmingham

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    He aint no Lennox Lewis
     
  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If David Tua couldn't even KO the much more limited Hasim Rahman, then he also doesn't KO, never mind decapitate Alexander Povetkin.

    Hasim Rahman has been stopped / KO'ed multiple times. Yet, Tua still couldn't KO Rahman. But Povetkin has never been KO'ed in around 200 amateur + pro bouts but Tua is going to KO Povetkin? Sure! Very believable nonsense!

    Even Chris Byrd, who was also stopped multiple times and is levels below Povetkin took Tua's punches, didn't get knocked out whilst out-boxing Tua. Yet, the better Povetkin is going to get KO'ed by this limited Tua? Sure! Very believable nonsense!

    A 40 year old, past prime Tua got schooled by Alexander Ustinov and couldn't even win a single round. Whilst a 40 year old, past prime Povetkin demolished a much better boxer in David Price by knockout. Showing the difference in class between the two. But somehow, the more limited and less classier Tua is going to KO the much better and more proven Povetkin? Sure! Very believable nonsense!

    There's a reason why Tua has more losses than Povetkin. Also to less than stellar opposition I may add. Whilst there is also a reason why Povetkin has only 1 loss to the most dominant champion in the last 4 decades and nobody else. The reason is because Povetkin is literally multiple levels above Tua and that's just a fact!

    You are aware that Tua has failed to KO many opponents, that were already previously KO'ed by somebody else or after. Correct? So the idea that he would KO someone who has never been KO'ed in his life and someone who is better than anybody he has KO'ed, is utterly laughable.

    Otherwise, Tua, by your own logic, should have decapitated and KO'ed the much inferior Robert Hawkins, or Chris Byrd, or Alexander Ustinov, or Hasin Rahman or Sean Hart or Cisse Salif or Friday Ahunanya or Demetrice King or a bunch of other clowns that are far inferior to Povetkin.

    Povetkin outboxes the overrated and limited Tua relatively easily and may even knock him out too.
     
  6. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    PRIME Tua i'm talking, before he got fat and lazy
     
  7. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'd never use this as a comparison Bud, its a terrible analysis
     
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  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What 'prime'? Some fictitious period from a boxer's career? 6 or 7 fights is a big enough sample size and there have been 6 or 7 opponents, all whom are inferior to Povetkin, Tua couldn't KO, much less decapitate.

    Chris Byrd exposed David Tua as the one dimensional and overrated boxer that he is. Managed to take Tua's shots and school his ass. That was Tua at his best.

    Povetkin is levels above Chris Byrd. Povetkin is multiple levels above David Tua.
     
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  9. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2001 was not Tua at his best, at all. It was after fatTua fought Lennox Lewis - Tua was his best in the 90s. Byrd was KO5 by Ibeabuchi two years after Tua and Ibeabuchi set records for punches thrown in a fight and Ibeabuchi started seeing demons.
     
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  10. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, that was his prime. He simply was never that good to begin with and would always have looked as bad as he did against Chris Byrd. No version of Tua would have beaten Byrd.

    Ike Ibeabuchi dropped Byrd once and the fight was stopped prematurely. But Ibeabuchi is not David Tua. So he is irrelevant.

    Not being in your supposed prime doesn't mean you lack punching power. Just askAlexander Povetkin when he fought David Price. There's absolutely no excuse for Tua failing to KO Hasim Rahman, when he landed many clean punches because he was supposedly out of his prime. Being out of your prime doesn't make you lose your punching power. Your power should still have effect if it lands. And considering Tua's punches had little effect when they landed on Hasim Rahman, prime or no prime, then they aren't going to be much effective against a superior boxer with far more proven durability in Alexander Povetkin.

    Even a bum like Demetrice King absorbed Tua's punches just fine, without getting knocked out. But we are to believe Povetkin, a guy with far more proven durability, defense and class couldn't? Utter nonsense!

    I rate Tua's chin well, which is why I'd say Povetkin would beat Tua by decision. But considering Povetkin has KO'ed other guys with proven chins and durability like Takam and Mike Perez, it won't surprise me if Povetkin also KO'ed Tua.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    I'd probably pick Povetkin. He's better technically and better in combination. But above all he has better defence than Tua and that would be the deciding factor. I think Tua would have difficulties in really nailing Povetkin, whereas Povetkin is exceptionally accurate.

    Of course, if Povetkin made the mistake of getting into a straight up slugfest with Tua is would not go well with him. Tua is extremely powerful and has a great chin. He was born for slugfests.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    Chambers peppered away at Povetkin with ease and arguably won all of the first 6 rounds before Povetkin took over.

    There wouldn't be much left of Povetkin after 6 rounds of taking the same hits from Tua.

    Ibeabuchi only barely beat Tua and he was a better version of Povetkin. The more predictable Pov with worse defense and a lower out-put would get overwhelmed by Tua and possibly stopped.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Flase. Ibeabuchi completely dominated and battered a prime career best Byrd to the point where he didn't even know where he was.

    It took Povetkin longer to dispatch a totally shot to absolute bits Chris Byrd whose legs went 4-5 years earlier.
     
  14. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Just a shame Povetkin was well short of prime, eh Dunceo.
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    That question is exactly what you'd expect from somebody who makes arguments based off a boxrec page rather than the actual fights.
    This is why you judge Mike Tyson based off his loss to Danny Williams and why you're claiming Tua was prime when he came out of retirement to fight Ustinov in 2013.

    If you had ever watched Tua , you know that 90's Tua did not bare any resemblance whatsoever to 2013 Tua... But its been proven time and time again that lies and dishonestly is all you can bring to the table.