Alexander Povetkin vs. Deontay Wilder-Wilder Is Underrated And Povetkin Is Overrated.

You're simply not being objective at all. Re: Povetkin Charr, just look at the punch stats, they don't (usually) lie. Wilder landed vastly more on Duhaupas in EVERY round. Charr landed a comparable number as Povetkin in about HALF of the rounds.

On resume or H2H for last 4: Duhaupas > Charr
Stiverne > Takam (Takam being the best of Povetkins bunch. But Takams only claim to fame is beating Thompson, which Wilder victim Scott did better)
Spilzka > Perez (I never understood the love for Perez. His only accomplishments were barely getting a tie with Takam, and beating Abdusalamov. The only non bum Abdu beat was an ancient McCline, who Spilzka also beat)
Molina < than Wach (finally! Someone who is indisputably better than one of Wilders victims! But, if the Molina Adamek rumors are true, and Molina beats Adamek, even that will go away)

 

Yeah, this is bizarre. Perez beat no one. Spilzka has a much better resume and would probably be the better h2h too.

 

How exactly? They have one common opponent, one of them got stopped by him and the other one should've got a Draw.

 

Jennings beat Perez.

Meanwhile, Spilzka beat two "names", former top contenders on their way out, McCline and Adamek, both varying degrees of shot but still big names and not completely undangerous. In fact, in the next fight after Pin beat him, McCline dropped Abdu, the only "name" on Perez's resume, before being stopped. McCline was in turn the only name on Abdu's resume. Perez's resume is somehow conjured up from that one win, from a close lose, and another draw (which most consider a gift draw).

 

Nevertheless acting like Perez would school Wilder is suspect at best. based on what? He got floored in one round against Povetkin and has beaten no one.

There is certainly merit in arguing Povetkin is a more polished and skilled fighter, but you have to admit Wilder's power is at the very least on par with Povetkin's, and probably greater.

 

Povetkin is overrate, but so Is Burger Squad, who will get flattened inside 5 by Povetkin..

 

How is Wilder overrated when very few people give him much credit at all?

 

wilder has such bad balance, combine that with swinging for the fences , says to me that wilder will be steered clear of anybody that poses a real threat. Team wilder is a minor case study in "why do it, when you can just say it repeatedly and make or pretend it's so" i.e.: 'nobody wants to fight me!', 'I'm the heavyweight champion of the world', 'I want to fight the best', 'No one can take my right hand', ETC, ETC. Wilders camp will find a way to duck and swerve Povetkin, they do not have any confidence compared to some of you d*psh*ts

 

Very, very bad assessment I would say. This is a typical dismissal of someone's accomplishments (in Povetkin's case) which can be done to literally everyone, no matter how great the accomplishments are.

I agree that the match-up is close to 50-50 and I still didn't make up my mind about the fight, but this was a terrible assessment.

Povetkin won 2x European gold, world gold and Olympic gold in the amateurs, 125-7, all losses avenged. He picked on a very good opponents for a prospect in his first 15 fights.

He beat Chagaev. He beat Huck on at least even playing field in Germany (Huck's own home country), most had Povetkin winning no matter what you say.
After the Klitschko defeat, he beat Charr (who was top 20 at the time), beat 2 legitimate top 10 opponents Takam and Perez, and was the first to stop Wach (although I agree that Wach would have easily survived had ref not stopped the fight).

I'm not among those who believe that this is some "new" version of Povetkin. He is obviously 36 years old, and I think that he is slower than before and a little worse in a couple more aspects. He just fights more aggressively with better focus and isn't prone to being out of shape at times. But he is still 36, slowly approaching the end of his career. He took on a good row of opponents since losing to Wlad, won in an impressive fashion and people started giving him credit.

Wilder obviously hasn't accomplished much, other than undeservedly getting a title shot and winning a belt.

However, Wilder is now at the peak of his powers, very dangerous (especially for short opponents) and he is obviously one of the top heavyweights in the world.

He has the size and range, obviously power and that has been enough to get him victories so far despite his flaws (lack of great jab, bad distance control, flawed positioning/footwork, overall not great defense).

As for his title opponents (Molina, Duhaupas and Szpilka) they were not good at all (judged on this level), especially compared to Povetkin's opponents, but resumes don't win fights.

Who will win between him and Povetkin? It's hard to tell, at least from my point of view. I think that the favorite depends on the location (USA/Russia) and I see it as close to a 50-50 fight.

This is ridiculous, people are still doing everything in their power to discredit Klitschkos, I can't believe it.

 

Jennings only beat Perez by that ridicuolus Point deduction. That alone is light years ahead of anything Szpilka has ever done. Including wins over ancient Adamek(which was a clear win but a Close encounter) and McCline.

And I agree, Takam did beat Perez. More deccissively than Jennings did actually.

 

When did I ever say Perez would school Wilder? :huh

And yes, Wilder has better one punch KO power but Povetkin has better punch variation and punching technique.

 

Yeah, except height, reach, and power.

Does that guarantee Wilder wins? No, but it certainly notable departments that have won fights.

I guess maybe you should say every department that you care to acknowledge right?

 

You didn't, but the other guy did.

 

So you are still going to try to argue that Wilder's power is not real.

 

Wilders power is overrated. Povetkin has proven to be a better power puncher than Beyonce.