Alexander Povetkin vs Eddie Chambers

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nawfal, Dec 15, 2007.


  1. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    When somebody is one of the best in the history of the sport - amatuers do count, at least to me.

    I would like to ask you, who was Chambers impressive with?

    Honestly, I hope you are wright, and Chambers does bring something to the table that most of us don't see, as I would absolutely like to see a competitive fight rather than a total distruction.
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    A lot is being made of Povetkin's amateur career here. I wonder if anyone has considered the fact that he was still in the amateurs in his 20's chalking up wins against teenagers, while Chambers turned pro at 18, and began fighting men.
     
  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Alexander Povetkin TKO late.

    Work rate and pressure too high for Chambers to deal with.
     
  4. Shpion

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    What an ignorant post. :patsch That is exactly what I was saying about people knowing **** about amateur scene.

    And who are these teenagers might be? Care to enlighten us.

    Here is the list of the most accomplished boxers Povetkin beat in amatuers and their DOB's.

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  5. C Money

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    Amateur success is no guarantee of PRO success. Sure the best often end up coming out of the olympic's but it's not a gauge of what you'll be at the pro level. I fully unstand the value an amateur career can have, but believe there's a point of lessening returns.

    Chambers hasnt had the real name opposition yet, that's whats behind a opponent like Povetkin. I believe that Povetkin will bring the best out in Chambers. He's beaten Guinn and Brock. The Brock fight was NO SD:nono Chambers out boxed Brock and won 7-8 rounds . This is his chance and he'll step up.

    Dont worry, you'll see a fight! Hell ,Old Fried Turkey lasted 11 and truthfully Byrd might have made 12 if his father wasnt his trainer. For all the criticism thrown at Chambers most would also stick to Povetkin, so i dont see David vs Goliath, I see two evenly matched unbeaten HW's trying to make a nae for themselves:good
     
  6. ralphc

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    It does not matter how good Povetkin was in the past, it matters how good he is now. Joe Frazier at the same age would have dominated and knocked out the aging Chris Byrd much earlier. That was a sad performance by both men, but Povetkin has no excuses. If Povetkin thinks he can perform like that against Klitschko, he is going to get a very big surprise.
     
  7. Shpion

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    The discussion here is about Chambers vs. Povetkin.

    I agree that it might be little too soon for Povetkin to face Klitschko if he beats Chambers but I also think it won't hapen in the near future. Klitschko will probably face either Tompson or Chagaev after Ibragimov which gives Povetkin more time to prepare.
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    Do these men account for the majority of the fighters that he faced in the amatuers?
     
  9. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, this discussion is about Chambers vs. Povetkin, but the way Povetkin performed against Byrd would have gotten him a loss if Byrd had been ten years younger. Chambers is younger, and he has enough natural ability to do anything that Byrd can do. Chances of an upset are a bit higher than most people think. All of the mistakes Povetkin made against Donald he repeated against Byrd. If Chambers does his homework he will take note of this.
     
  10. Shpion

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    I did not include all of them. But the ones I did, account for the most sagnificant world competitions.
     
  11. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Amateurs do count,mate!

    Brewster is a really bad example! Brewster wasnt anywhere near as good as an amateur as was Povetkin.The Russian superstar was one of the most dominating amateur heavies of all times.Brewster? Give me a break!
    You are certainly right in saying that the rules are different at the pros.They are! No doubt about it! However,an outstanding amateur will almost always be an outstanding pro,too.
    Besides to win all important international amateur tournaments for ages sounds to me much more impressive than to be able to beat up a couple of part time taxi drivers at the pros.
    Have a look at Odlanier Solis ' pro fight record:he beat a guy in his second pro fight who had previously beaten Sedrick Fields(who defeated Shannon Briggs) and lost a split decisiion to Taras Bidenko(a genuine top 30 heavy).
    Solis had been an extremely successful amateur before he turned pro_Of course amateurs do count!
     
  12. ralphc

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    How many of these guys know that Povetkin beat Dildabekov, the Kazakh silver medalist from the 2000 Olympics? :huh
     
  13. Shpion

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    Oh well. I also forgot to include Timurziev om my list.
     
  14. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess that he will soon turn pro.He would surely have won gold if he hadnt been sick shortly before the final rounds of the last world championchip.
    He can earn tons of bucks at the pros,but I somehow doubt that a lot of western europeans or Americans like his first name "Islam".:D
     
  15. Shpion

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    Yeah. Very entertaining guy, even at amatuers. I also think he can be quite succesful in the Pros. Maybe he can sign with a German promoter though.