Amatuers do count of course, the problem with Povetkin is that he turned pro too late. I don't care if he has 400 bouts as an amatuer, pros are different then amatuer. You turn pro around 24, 25 or 26 you won't improve that much later on in there career. The point is pro fighters improve when fighting longer as pros, while still being young.
I said that amateurs have VALUE, but it has it's LIMITATIONS. How many times have certain fighters had wins over guy's in the amateur's and then lost to the same guy's in the pro's(Pavlik/Taylor most recent, Cotto/Pinto, etc.)? You might notice that I ALSO said guy's that do good as amateurs generally do better as pro's BUT THATS NOT A GUARANTEE!! It's a case by case basis. Brewster was a KO Machine as an amateur and looked at times unbeatable. He looked like CRAP many times at the PRO LEVEL see Kali Meehan for the definition of abominable:good In the end he took two Horrid beatings from Klitschko despite coming out with 1 win and has potentially serious eye issues. How bout Floyd bringing home Bronze? Was that an indicator of his superstardom? I'm not dogging Floyd by saying that either:nono How bout RJJ in Korea? How full of **** can amateur decision's sometimes be? The amateurs are the AMATEURS. It has its use and place but it AINT THE PRO's. Watch some of the Pan Am's last year, I saw some HORRID and I mean HORRID scoring in some cases. Not that we dont see BS in the PRO's, but at least you can get up to 8 additional rounds to WORK. Safe to say all the good amateurs? Take it to the next level and rasie their game as PRO's!! I dont see how this isnt understood. Do we pay 49.95-64.95 for Amatuer tournaments??:huh Do we remember SRR's 128-1-2 at his peak or his amateur record? Chambers CHOSE his own path and I respect it. I can assure you he performed well as an amateur in Pittsburgh:good Like I said it aint David vs Goliath, its two unbeaten HW's fighting for a title shot. What I saw in POvetkin vs Byrd didnt look like it matched the best Amateur RECORD of AT. Whats it gonna mean vs Klitschko? I'm sure Wlad will be shivering in fear:nut
I don't really understand the reasoning behind saying that Povetkin has not had, so far, a helluva start to things. Granted he came into the pro's late, but it wasn't that late. Compare first 14 fights with just about anyone and Povetkin stacks up well beyond solid. This is going to be a great fight. Two guys who have a lot riding on the outcome and a big, big, payday lurking for them this summer. Wlad vs. Povetkin will be huge, HUGE. It will be the most talked about heavyweight fight since Lewis vs. Vitali or maybe even Lewis vs. Holyfield. Especially if it takes place in Germany, Russia or Ukraine. Chambers vs. Wlad will also be a big fight, considering Chambers is the number 1 us prospect right now. Two guys who come to fight in an eliminator for a shot at the heavyweight champion (who I consider Wlad to be especially if and when he beats Iggy) have historically been great fights. Chambers is fast, his punches have that razor like quality to them though he is not a KO artist. Rossy, Brock and Guinn all had cuts coming away from their fights. I think that he has a chance of landing and maybe winning a fight on cuts. Povetkin did cut against Byrd, but that was due to a headbutt. Povetin's wins against Donald, Byrd, Bango and Ahunanya have all been good ones. Any time he has come into a a fight against lessor caliber he has blown them away. Donald was only knocked out the once, so Povetkin dominating him for ten rounds says a lot. Byrd has only been knocked out by two other people, one is the current champ, the other a great missed champ. I got to say, I think Povetkin will have less trouble landing on Chambers than he did Byrd, and I expect him to be the more busy/forward puncher. Chambers has a chance to counter and perhaps cut Povetkin. It is going to be a great fight and a good win for either guy. I say Povetkin will win though.
Great Post!:good Too much time in the amateurs is a detriment to a professional career. If you look back at the history of boxing the mast majority of the great champions turned pro between the ages of 18 - 21. After 21, the chances of success take a nose dive. There have been a few beat the odds, but only a few. Will Povetkin beat the odds? His last two performances aren't too reassuring.