Alexander Povetkin vs Evander Holyfield

Povetkin UD

 

Povetkin struggled vs. CW Marco Huck -- but won't the fight. Holyfield lost to glass-jawed LHW Michael Moorer :deal

 

These two fighters are not in the same league. Holyfield would win easily over 12 rounds. In his prime Holyfield was one of the greatest heavyweights of all time up there with Ali.

The only fighters who could beat Holyfield in his prime would be Vitali Klitschko and maybe Ali. I think even Wlad Klitschko would get knocked out. The only two fighters who really beat a prime Holyfield were Bowe and Moorer.

Moorer beat Holyfield with his jab and he also was awkward with a lot of power. At the time Moorer seemed invincible and Holyfield was caught by surprise. Holyfield eventually avenged his loss.

Bowe beat Holyfield convincingly but even in that fight Holyfield made it a war and it was close. I don't think anyone has dominated Holyfield in his prime.

I don't think Povetkin could go 12 rounds with the Foreman that fought Holyfield, or Moorer, or Bowe. I think Holyfield would win by TKO or decision against any version of Povetkin and I don't think Povetkin has any tool to win.

Povetkin doesn't have the power to back Holyfield up, he doesn't have the speed or defense to avoid getting countered, and Holyfield in his prime was knocking guys out with well timed counter punches.

 

Michael Moorer is one of the hardest punching heavyweights of all time. It might not look like he had that kind of power but ask anyone who has been in the ring or in sparring with him. He was talked about at the time like how GGG is talked about and a lot of guys were intimidated by his power.

Holyfield had perhaps the best chin in the division at the time and could go 12 rounds with Michael Moorer but no one at LHW could go 12 and few at Heavyweight could.

 

A lot of young fans don't understand how good Holyfield was at the time. They remember the old Holyfield who was losing.

 

You're kidding right? Michael Moorer needed a robbery SD over Eurobum Axel Schulz. Yes , Moorer struggled more with Schulz than with overrated Holyfield. 23 year old Wlad Klitschko brutally stopped Schulz after knocking him down 3 times.

If Moorer was so hard-hitting, why didn't he even floor Schulz?

 

Fixed that for you :deal

 

How can you compare the two? Styles have a lot to do with it.

Moorer would get knocked out by Wlad or Tyson but we aren't talking about Moorer who had a vulnerable chin with a supreme punch. We are talking about Holyfield who had the best chin in boxing at the time and who was a relentless counter puncher who could box or knock you out with one punch.

Povetkin or Wlad would have serious problems with a prime Holyfield due to the fact that they wouldn't be able to keep Holyfield away, and would also run into counter punches any of which could turn the fight into a Holyfield fight.

Holyfield countered Bowe when people thought Holyfield was about to be knocked out and he almost knocked Bowe out. If that had happend to Wlad then Wlad would have been knocked out. I don't even think Povetkin would have been a difficult fight for a prime Holyfield.

Did you see what prime Holyfield did to Buster Douglas? The same Buster Douglas who knocked out Mike Tyson? He knocked Buster Douglas out with one punch, a well timed counter punch. Povetkin is a good fighter, can box considerably better than most fighters, but he's vulnerable to being countered, he can be hurt, and he gets tired.

In his prime Holyfield seemed like a fighter who couldn't be hurt, who didn't get tired, and who could knock you out with a counter punch at any time no matter who you were. You could be Mike Tyson and run into a punch and be knocked out or you could be Buster Douglas and run into the same punch and be knocked out.

So the only fighter who I think would have for sure had the advantage over Holyfield is Vitali, and of course you have Ali who in his prime had good enough footwork to outbox Holyfield over 12.

 

Foreman? Moorer? Bowe? Douglas? Tyson? None of those guys were average.

You could say out of these five that Douglas, and Bowe did not live up to their potential fully. Douglas had a habit of not coming into fights in his best shape and seeming not to be motivated, Bowe didn't seem focused either, but when they fought Holyfield they were all in their prime except for Foreman.

Foreman had the same kind of punching power of Wlad and had enough left to knock out Moorer. Bowe also had the punching power, but could also box like Holmes. Douglas didn't have a lot of power but was a very difficult boxer and we all know how good Tyson was.


Holyfield beat all five in his prime and any of these five would beat Povetkin in their prime. I don't think Povetkin is much better than a Tommy Morrison which is to say he's very good, champion quality, and underrated, but he's not an all time great, he's not in the same league as Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Moorer, Bowe or Douglas.

Watch the tapes of these other fighters or the youtube videos. See with your own eyes how talented they were.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siheWCzIL90

Holyfield vs Douglas.

Tell me how Povetkin beats that Holyfield or even that version of Douglas. I think either of those guys could beat Povetkin in that time.

 

Holyfield is better in all categories i seriously see no way a prime Holyfield would lose this.

 

Holy by late KO in a very entertaining fight.

 

I agree

Povetkin is good and would make it interesting

 

Holyfield for sure. UD

 

Holyfield beat Qawi (in his 12th fight), Foreman, Holmes, Bowe, Moorer, Mercer and Tyson. At the age of 46 and totally shot he did a better job on Valuev than Haye did, that gives you some perspective on the different level prime Holyfield is at compared to todays heavyweights, Povetkin included.