Alexis Arguello vs Barry McGuigan, at 126lbs, Both Prime 15 Rounds.

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gee do you think

    Pryor was at 140 lbs.

    But yes Alexis stops Barry
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    My point was only bigger, more power fighters could have come forwards and overpowered a puncher like Arguello the way Pryor did, I don`t think any featherweight could have done it, there were some punchers at that weighht that may have walked him down like Azumah Nelson or Hamed but those type of punchders punched a lot harder than Barry as did Arguello
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Your deviating from what you previously said. You stated McGuigan was just a strait in puncher and he was nothing of the sort. I as also said Arguello would win it just wouldnt be a walk in the park the way you stated it. How much McGuigan have you actually sat down and watched??
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I only saw his fight with Pedroza and his style was pretty basic, that head movement wouldn`t work against a clever offensive fighter like Alexis.
     
  5. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Just between me and you this fight has kept me as well as many others awake in the twilight hours of fantasy boxing this is the one and only fight no one not even this old boxing junkie is truly sure of, between these two ATG’s it could be a master class boxing match, a war? or even a glorified sparring match depending on how either approaches the fight.
     
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  6. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    serious underestimating of mc guigan here. Dont get me wrong, AA wins for me, but mcguigan is a hard nights work for any of them. He was superfit, lived the life outside of the ring, had a great chin and as for his power not being as good as others, well i dont know where that comes from but he could bang plenty from what ive seen. As for his head movement, which was mentioned in an earlier post, when he was in the mood he had great head movement. ok, the fight was in the bag but look at the last half of the 15th round v pedroza and hes making him miss for fun. He was deemed that far ahead of all in the uk and europe that they agreed to give him a lonsdale belt rather than defend his british title around the time he was challenging for world honours. Too far ahead of his peers in that pond. Like i say, AA wins, but not a cakewalk. Just my 2 cents
     
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  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Mark get it through you thick skull after about the 5th post that I also said Arguello wins. So do you understand that part now ? Can we move to the next part now. You said Arguello has only a straight forward punchers style. I disagreed and gave you my reasons and asked if you ever really watched the man fight. It turn out you watched 1 fight yes only 1 so dont assume you know the mans style. After these last few yrs your still the most thick headed poster because you refuse to do research and actually think befor you comment half the time. SMH
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Allright, let's meet in the middle here... Mcguigan did not have "great head movement". Thats going from underrating him to overrating him. And unlike Mark, I've seen most his fights, not just Pedroza.

    Mcguigan had decent head movement for an offensive fighter, but at no point was he some hard target to find.
     
  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd favor Arguello in a fairly tough fight. He was the all-round, superior boxer and he was an excellent Featherweight.

    That said, Arguello was not his best at 126, for mine; not compared to how sharp and coordinated he would become, when allowed to leave a few pounds on. At the same time, McGuigan was made for the division, in my opinion, and was a strong at the weight - strong enough to make this an attrition type of battle and either failing to reach the finish line or getting beaten on the cards.

    I think the latter case is more likely but, either way, McGuigan makes a fight out of it.
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    McGuigan wasn`t a master boxer, he was just an effective pressure fighter with less power than Arguello and less skill.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fair enough, I was just pointing out he was no Loma in that regard.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I said McGuigan had a straight ahead style.
     
  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Upon rewatch a few months ago Ray was even more competitive than I remembered. AA was laying the groundwork and breaking him down ... but Mancini fought a fine fight. You could see him starting to unravel late but up until that point he gave as good as he got.
     
  14. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    McGuigan was many things Mark...but he wasnt "basic"....you dont be basic and beat a great long running champ like pedroza just chugging in. Take a look at his short championship run...laporte,pedroza,taylor,cabrera....he was no joke...and despite all the issues with his dads cancer, eastwood eating away at him,the late change of foe the mad decision to put a pale skinned irishman in the afternoon desert heat vs a local stevie cruz....mcguigan lost that fight by a whisker...he was dominant in long patches....so thats basically one razor thin loss...than the grief striken rusty mcguigan who beats 3 fringe contenders and loses to jim mcdonnel on a cut in an even fight....and suddenly McGuigan is devalued badly.

    I personally think Barry was a clever boxer fighter he had phenomenal stamina,very good power and combos...its argued he couldnt fight going back..probably cos apart from the 15th round vs cruz he didnt need to....

    I think mcguigan was better than any big 4 featherweight titlist of the 1990s including hamed.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    McGuigan used to be a pundit for Sky sports during the 90`s and during one show he was talking about Hamed and admitted he wouldn`t have had a clue on how to fight Hamed because of Hamed`s awkward style.
     
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