Alexis Arguello: Where P4P?

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Was Arguello overrated?

  1. Alexis. A was overrated

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  2. Arguello was an all-time great

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  3. Alexis was a weight bully

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony whooped the vegemite outta him Full Member

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  2. Greg Price99

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  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alexis Arguello was one of the greatest fighters in the history
    of the sport.
    Arguello should be in anyone's top fifty boxers of all time.
     
  4. Lankykong

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    How does being tall for the weight equate to being a weight bully?
     
  5. ChrisJS

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    All-time great. Absolutely 100% in the top 50.
     
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  6. Mark Anthony

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    Reach advantage is a huge thing, he never tested himself against fighters the same size as him.
     
  7. Ney

    Ney Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’ll be very curious to read the case of anyone who says he isn’t one of the greats.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    ATG. Skillwise I rank him high. I probably rank him among the top 25 p4p.
     
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  9. Flash24

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    So because of his height and reach advantages in your opinion
    Arguello wasn't great?
    How about
    Thomas Hearns?
    Sandy Saddler?
    Esubio Pedroza?
    Michael Spinks?
    Ray Robinson?
    All of them usually had great height
    and reach
    advantages.
     
  10. robert ungurean

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    Legit ATG
    Probably my favorite fighter of all time
     
  11. Mark Anthony

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    Robinson only had a 72.5 inch reach, Ray Leonard had a 74 inch reach as does Bud Crawford but without their heights, yes Hearns was a massive weight bully, his fight v Duran looked absurd.
     
  12. Mark Anthony

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    Hearns had an even longer reach than Spinks.
     
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  13. greynotsoold

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    I know what spurred this thread. I just saw the new Fouts Boxing youtube video in which he says that Arguello was an overrated bum. In the comments, Fouts asserts that he would beat Arguello because Alexis had no skills.
     
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  14. Greg Price99

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    Hearns also had a longer reach than Tua.

    Hearns was vastly better than Tua, relatative to their respective sizes.

    Yet Tua would have destroyed Hearns.

    Arguello and Hearns respective reaches were an advantage, just as their slight builds were a disadvantage, that typically broadly offset each other relative to their opponents, meaning the more skilled and/or effective fighter usually won.

    There is a reason boxing is divided into weight, rather than reach, divisions.
     
  15. Flash24

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    I think you're equating weight with height. Especially back in the days of same day weigh-ins.
    You're equating weight with height and reach. Especially back in the day of same day weigh-ins.
    Yes Thomas Hearns had a height and reach advantage over Leonard.
    But Leonard weighted more than Hearns for example.
    So who was the weight bully?
    And what was the significance of it when Leonard only weighed a pound more?
    Arguello fought in an era of same day weigh-ins.
    He wasn't a weight bully.
    Most of the " weight bully " occurrences have been in the last 20- 30 yrs of boxing.