Alexis Arguello's career summation : woz hi rili det gr8 ?

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I watched his fights vs Ramirez and Navarette so far , had Ramirez winning 99-98 (might quote my RBR of it l8er) and 2day wocht hiz unimpressive fait vs Navarette , e fait in wich hi did not hert Navarette ez hiz "pancher"'s stigma suggests , end only won it due 2 e kat .
    I red de deim sing hepend 2 him vs Chacon , only it tuk him longer den end harder 2 achieve .
    Arguello rimacht nider of diz gayz .
    Olso , I m naw woching him vs Pryor in der 1st fait , heving scord de 1st rd 10:8 in favor of Pryor end de 2nd 10:9 4 Arguello , will upd8 dis tred ebaut it .
    rd 3 : ebawt / qwait iven , 10:10 , wud hev given it 2 Arguello beisd on him bi'ing mor aggressive if i woz 4s2 , bat i m not .
    rd 4 : 10:8 Pryor , so it iz olredi 39:36 in feiver of Pryor .
    rd 5 : iven , mait b slaitli mor in feiver of Pryor . Hi reminded mi of Mosley e bit in it 4 sam rizon .
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    rds 6,7 : Pryor kips powerboxing Arguello , qwait laik rd 5 .
    rd 8 : (10:9 4 Pryor) Richard Steele tuk 1 pt from Arguello 4 bating i biliv , meiking it et list 79:75 so far .
    rd 9 : mor powerboxing , Arguello's useless slapping kips not doing demej , not det Pryor daz mach .
    rd 10: de KO , woz it der 2nd fait ? i howpt it woz der 1st .
    wer iz deir 1st ?

    So Arguello's "pancher"'s rekord contains et list 2 "stopej" victoris dyu 2 kats , end 1 decijen win dyu 2 e roberi , end no rimatches 2 meik meters klir .
    I never sot veri haili of him , end mi woching hiz faits onli rein4ces mai vyu of him ez en over8ed faiter .
    Not top 100 p4p matirial , iven if i still hev him over FMJ , SRL end probabli RJJ 2 :yep .
    ez i 1s hed it , Olivares > Arguello , end I du not sink det Olivares dizervs e top 100 pleis ider .
    meibi if restrikted 2d sinc 1940 dei du .
    Pryor iz iven mor over8ed BTW .

    :happy
    here , i managed 2 dig it (my post) from d "wot fait did u woch tred" :
    Jose Luis Ramirez vs Alexis Arguello .
    rds 1-5 even with Arguello more of d aggressor and Ramirez having d better of landed punches , rd 6 is a 10-8 4 Ramirez , rd 9 i could excuse 4 Arguello and rd 10 even again , all in all
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    , d least he could b given 4 this fight . If anything , he had more case winning a few of d early rds , thus increasing d gap in his favor .


    edit : i posted it there in d 02-27-2012
     
  2. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hard to decipher the language in the few minutes I can come here on break.
     
  3. McGrain

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  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    back 2 summarizing hiz career , bi'ing de bigger man bai det mach end stil bi'ing aneibel 2 win concussively iz not de matter det gr8 panchers r sapowzd 2b meid of . (in rigarding 2 Chacon , Ramirez end Navareete so far)
     
  5. Nagabilly

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    yup boi he def gr8
     
  6. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He stopped Escalara the second time rather conclusively.

    And define great. Do you mean. that regalia which surrounds caballero in myth and the cachet of victory visited upon lesser men? Or is there something else at work here, some critical and prosperous method of nebulous disquisition?
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he was not part of the group of 8. The is a group of Countries and the European Union, not boxers. I mean: Da gr8 iz kuntrees nt 5trs...
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    my defintion of p4p quality is overcoming (physical) disadvantages such as : h8 , w8 , eij , dreining , chiting bai de opponent , etc .
    Arguello woz not iven det gud et utilaizing hiz own advantages .

    resume wise it ken it ken b considered ez quality of per4mans multiplied bai quality of opposition feist divaided bai opposition eveilebel .

    absolute quality of opposition meters ez wel in det det dowz untested egeinst rilit gud opponents r untested iven if dei feist de best eveilebel 2 dem .

    I du consider Ramirez ez e lock 4 top 10 Mexicans (olweis hev him @ top 5) , bat wer Chacon & Navarette det gud ? I now Chacon got in de HOF , bat ..

    Olso Arguello akshuali got stopped 2wais @ young eij , samsing det did not hepen 2 Duran & Sanchez , end hepend 2 Ramirez only 1s end iven den it woz egeinst e hayer kaliber faiter dan d2 wum stopt Arguello .

    My biggest problem iz det Arguello iz konsiderd gr8er dan de laix of LaPorte , Jorge Castro , Melchor Cob Castro , Orlin Norris , Ramirez end most iven konsider him ez gr8er dan Sanchez & Carbajal .

    Arguello woz gud of course , bat woz jast e big w8 kater wiz qwait e misliding rekord , ez i olredi exampeld .

    Hi woz samwot gud @ wot hi did , bat de word gr8 shud not b overused .
    Arguello shud b remembered ez wot hi woz : e deinjerous big man 4 hiz divijens , multiw8 taitlist in a midioker @ best divijens .
    Hi olso lost 2 Marcel end hed problems wiz Vilomar Fernandez , 2 men wum n older & shorter dan himself Duran did better egeinst .

    Duran wud hev reipt Pryor BTW , IDK haw du sam dispyut it , DeJesus > Pryor .

    edit : i 1s swopt Arguello wiz Ramirez bai mistake
     
  9. Vinegar Hill

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    Yea ok whatever
     
  10. Anubis

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    Not only was he the first man in history to successfully defend championships in two different weight divisions without ever losing a title defense, he was the first in history to successfully defend in THREE weight divisions without losing a title defense. Others had become triple division champions before him, but when Arguello stopped Mancini, he became the FIRST man to ever SUCCESSFULLY defend titles in three weight divisions.

    The definitive great champion, he defended the FW title four times, the SFW title eight times, and the LW title four times. Only one of his 16 challengers lasted the distance. Seven of his failed challengers were world champions at other times. He dethroned two others. He defeated five others in nontitle competition. He was the first orthodox champion to achieve ace status against southpaw challengers and title winning competition. He established a lot of historical precedents. Records can be broken, but only one can be first.
     
  11. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My words exactly.
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    de part regarding Chacon , Navarette , Ramirez end wu nows wum els refyuts de red part .

    Ricardo Hatton woz de 1st ethnic British person 2 win taitels @ bows 140 & 147 . HOF Hatton .
     
  13. Anubis

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  14. Shawn Kemp

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    Is the person who made this thread ******ed? I can't understand anything this moron types.
     
  15. Delicious

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