Alfonso Zamora

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  1. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sure this has been brought up but...

    Did Zarate ruin Zamora? Or ere those weaknesses always there and until Zarate no one could expose them? He demolished Pedroza and Hong,a Hall of Famer and a half, but Pedroza wasn't really Pedroza yet. Did losing that battle rob him of done much needed resolve? If he hadn't fought Zarate do you think he could have beaten lujan? I love the way the guy fights but was he just a "front runner with incredibly heavy hands"?
     
  2. Senor Pepe'

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    Little Red,

    Alfonso Zamora hit Carlos Zarate with bombs in that bout. Alfonso had that
    look like,,,,,,,, 'Why are you still standing'.

    He never expected Carlos to go 'toe-to-toe' with him.
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    And Wilfredo Gomez, just 4 lbs heavier, just devastated Zarate with his shots. Maybe Gomez hit considerably harder than Zarate. Maybe a little off topic, but just a thought.
    Maybe an idea for a Gomez-Zarate thread.:think
     
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  4. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe I should have done that thread?

    But, on that note I think Zamora hit harder although if forced to defend thus position I would be unable to do so.
     
  5. DaveK

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    Look at his record post-Zarate... There's your answer.

    It happens to many, many big punchers when their power fails them. They're never quite the same.

    What was he, 25-0 (25) going into the Zarate fight? (I could be wrong, but he was undefeated with every win by KO)

    After that, he won some, lost some, and wasn't the consistent puncher he once was. He went downhill quick.
     
  6. DaveK

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    And a decent argument could be made for Zamora being a harder puncher than Gomez.

    Gomez definitely hit hard, but it was other components of his game that made him the puncher he was in addition to his power.
     
  7. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kinda like Gomez's punches having no effect on Sal Sanchez just 4 lbs above Wilfredo.
     
  8. Senor Pepe'

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    Alfonso was 'not' knocking everybody out in the amateurs.

    He was a busy and hard-punching 3-Round fighter, but not a 'KO Artist'.

    When he turned professional at age 18, he started out by flattening
    'non-entities', and then developed a heavy punch.

    Some those early opponents, were 'off the street' record-padders.
     
  9. The Funny Man 7

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    I don't know, I remember reading an old Ring where he was the runner up for comeback of the year and fighter of the year one year, after he'd lost to Lujan.

    I don't think he was a bad fighter, but he fell in love with his own power, like Rosario kind of, then started partying too much which led to his getting brutally stopped by Lujan. He cleaned up his act, got a few good wins and then fell back into drinking himself into oblivion.
     
  10. salsanchezfan

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    I'm sorry, but I believe it's "Bolivian."


    ...........Just here to help.
     
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  11. Flea Man

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    Lujan had too dense a beard and when Zamora realised he couldn't crack it, in probably his most rounded and patient performance, he folded.

    Still, one of the hardest pure hitters in lower weight history.

    I don't think Gomez hit harder than Zamora; but he was quicker, naturally bigger, more precise and with better timing.
     
  12. Lester1583

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    Movement and angles too.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Exactly, was harder to see his shots coming.

    Zarate was straight on but bludgeoned you anyway.
     
  14. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I pretty much agree with this. Gomez was, like Duran or Olivares, a brilliant puncher if not a devastating one shot guy. Zarate only really traded with Zamora for one round; after that he started beating him to the punch and taking him apart.

    In regards to Lujan do you think its fair to say that after the Zarate fight he lost his motivation, so to speak. For some guys this happens after a win- Duran was hot and cold and after Montreal, Tyson changed his style after Spinks. But for Zamora a large part of what made him so effective was feeling like he was an unstoppable kayo machine. And like Terry McGovern, when he found out he wasn't he was never the same.
     
  15. Senor Pepe'

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    Alonso Zamora scoring a 4th-Round Knockout over WBA Bantamweight Champion Soo-Hwan Hong.

    Alfonso swarmed over the Champion with a barrage of punches, leaving
    the Korean unable to hold off the Mexican's rampage.

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