Ali 1974 vs Joshua of today, who wins?

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Ali 1974 VS Joshua of Today.

  1. Ali wins

    85.1%
  2. Joshua wins

    14.9%
  1. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    . . . better skillsets than Foreman. Foreman didn't rely on skills.
     
  2. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could start with a considerable difference in workrate.
     
  3. Okin129

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    Anthony Joshua has a consistent good workrate, the only fight where he slowed a bit down with his workrate
    was against Wlad because he had to be more cautious due to his punching power.

    He showed against Whyte and Breazeale that he can go full power for at least 7 rounds and he showed against
    Wlad that he can knock someone out in the late rounds, his stamina would be no problem in this fight.
     
  4. Nighttrain

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    Let me try and break this down for you. Anthony Joshua's biggest most impressive victories over a 41 year old guy who looked every bit of his age in his previous fight. He has not fought and won against a meaningful opponent in three and a half years. To say that based on his performance against Klitschko he could beat Muhammad Ali is silly.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    A GREAT boxer after 19 fights? LOL!!!
     
  6. Okin129

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    I was talking about fighting ability, the guy is an olympic gold medalist and unified heavyweight champion,
    Anthony Joshua is a great fighter, yes.
     
  7. Man_Machine

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    A 'Punch-Still', like the one Joshua came to against Wlad, would signal the beginning of the end, in a bout with Ali.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    You certainly dish out "great" at the drop of a hat don't you.

    I see you started a thread in Gen saying Joshua has a "great chin".

    He's just the latest and greatest at this point. The so called "unified" fell into his lap without having to truly earn it.

    You are slinging shyte at this forum left, right and center but at the end of the day the label "nut hugger" would fit you like a glove even by General forum standards.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    That apparently only happened because he was hurt LOLOLOL
     
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  10. Man_Machine

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    Oh...

    ...I'm glad we have a couple of experts here to explain these things to us.

    I wonder if that accounts for the collapse of Joshua's punch output, through rounds 6 to 10, as well then?
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Pretty good? You called it "great". Just like the full power for more than 12 rounds.

    But yes Ali is known for being taken out with single punches.

    And yes he'd HAVE to be a superhero to beat a 19 fight monster in Joshua. What were the 46 voters thinking?
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    He was being careful.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    For sure, nothing to do with 19 fight Joshua being massively unproven, Ali being massively proven and that sort of silly stuff. If he's won one big fight he's a shoe in over Ali.
     
  14. Man_Machine

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    Your insights into the human psyche and fear-based, religious idolatry are about as useful as your opinions on boxing.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    Yes, he has the likes of Shavers, Foreman and Liston covered and then some. Feather fists.