Ali a cruiser?

Well there was Nikolai Valuev and he was over 7 feet tall and 300 pounds

 

They did, your right, but theses big fellas now are equal in skill nearly to them or have enough skill coupled with size to turn the tide as a fight goes on. Holyfield is a great example of what a complete little guy does against big skilled guys, Holy prime had everything but size and he himself imo h2h is arguably better than both Ali and Louis, but he had an up hill battle with a conditioned Bowe and Lewis edged him. I have both Klits knocking Louis out and both Klits UD'ing Ali(steward Wlad that is)

 

This

 

Yeah, outside Lewis, the Klits, AJ, Wilder and Fury, I see no one during this millenia that should be too much trouble for a prime Ali on the face of it. Povetkin could be tricky and there could always be the Norton/Doug Jones type in there that isn't apparent, but it's not like contenders/titlists like Ruiz and Chagaev would seem a very daunting task.

An Ali turning pro in, say, 2010 would probably look a bit different from the real Ali, though. Especially if PEDs were involved, which isn't highly unlikely.

 

It should be said that Ali's most difficult opponents weren't that big. Size didn't bother him as much as work rate and good counter punching.

 

Wilder looks like a fool against much lesser fighters than Ali, but that doesn't matter much in the end.

 

My guess is that Ali would be too wary of his right to attack like he did against Ernie. But, yeah, Ali was better on the front foot than often given credit for, and Wilder's jab isn't as good as either Terrell's or Bugner's nor is he as good a boxer, but he's even bigger (reach and height) and has that right.

Don't know personally.

 

I hope Usyk gets to face all the big 3 in the HW division. That could give us a hint as to how Ali would do (not saying they're identical, but there is similarities).

 

Err, my response is to the question of hiw ali and Louis would do against 6'4 230 pound heavies. Holyfield was 6'1 or 6'2 and 205-217 in his prime. That's a bad example.

Who are all these super heavies you claim are as skilled as Ali and Louis?

 

But, but what about Ruiz super fast hands and technique!

 

You spelt God wrong.

 

Them two would be better than 95% of Ali's opponents, take Foreman and Frazier out of it and im confident these two would be there or there abouts his best opposition

 

Hows it a bad example ? Holy measures up to Ali very closely physically

I think you've left a bit out haven't you you little rotter you.....
With Ali, theres loads of big guys more complete than him, loads, Louis is harder as he was complete, chinny but his repertoire was complete..Ali had intangibles that made him great, but he wasn't as skilled as made out

 

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

Is holyfield 6'4 and 230 lbs? No. So why bring him up as an example of a modern sized super heavy who could give Ali trouble?