Ali a cruiser?

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow....no way lol. Liston Quarry Norton Bonavena Patterson Just to name a few. Ruiz story is still being told but he seems very disappointing.
     
  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seems a very bold statement to me. I can see Ali keeping away from that right and winning a wide points decision, I can see something similar to Fury-Wilder (which of course Wilder should have lost) and I can see Ali getting caught and being stopped.

    I'm very wary of certainitis in match-ups like these.
     
  3. Somali Sanil

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    I ****ing didn't you nob, I said it was a fair comparison or a good example size wise comparing Ali to Holy and what he would be able to do with a highly skilled with a big size advantage super heavy as Holy has fought them, that's when I mentioned Bowe and Lewis who Holy had an up hill battle with, even though imo more skilled he had to battle the size advantage with the skill discrepancy not being big enough to win.... Comprende mush ????
     
  4. Somali Sanil

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    You haven't convinced me with these. Liston was ancient, Patterson way to small, ill give you Norton, maybe Bonavena has a chance, I did say 95% lol
    Now name the rest ???
     
  5. Bokaj

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    Wilder's record is thin, yes, but MacFoster never stopped a top 10 fighter as far as I know, in an era where just about every top 10 fighter would be a CW today.

    It truly is a sin, though, that you can be around the top for as long as Wilder has been and face so few top fighters, but his power has really made an impression on me, even though I don't like him as a fighter. I reckon he could starch just about anybody if he lands, but it's hard to say for sure since he has faced so few quality guys.

    But he has sickening power, great speed in the delivery and a perhaps a longer reach (but could be wrong here) than anyone Ali faced. That is a dangerous combo anyway you slice it.
     
  6. Bokaj

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    Liston was 7 ****ing months from starching Patterson in one. Was he ancient when he did that?
     
  7. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You did say 95 percent. I’d put them on par with the Chuvalo, Zora, Lyle, Terrell, shavers, Young, Mathis crowd..just my opinion. Ruiz can improve on his legacy but he has to make up for that last pitiful performance
     
  8. Somali Sanil

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    yes
     
  9. Glass City Cobra

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    Holyfield fights nothing like Ali so even if that's your angle its a little weird. Ali was also taller with a longer reach and significantly faster hands and feet. Holyfield was technically sound but it didnt take much to drag him into a brawl.