ALi and Liston by Bob Mee

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Terrific new book on the two Ali - Liston fights ... so rare that an author can break new ground and pack it with golden nuggets ... far and away the best coverage of Sonny Liston I have ever read anywhere ... worth the purchase on that alone ...

    [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Ali-Liston-Would-King-Ugly/dp/1616083697/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322400357&sr=8-1[/ame]
     
    he grant, Nov 27, 2011
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I thought it was pretty bad, and the only new reveals I read were about the cancelled second fight. Other than that, more of the same.

    Is it really new over there? I read it more than a year ago, I think.
     
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  3. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I've had this for a while and still haven't read it.
     
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  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Interesting. I never read any of the coverage of Liston's origins before ... I guess it's a matter of if you like the sociological context similar to a Randy Roberts style ...it was just released here ...
     
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  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    A very similar book is David Remnick's, "King of the World", which covers both Liston-Patterson fights, some information about Frankie Carbo, Ali's rise as a fighter, the Nation of Islam, both Ali-Liston fights, then finishing with Ali's first fight with Patterson.

    This is also a great book.
     
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    That was in, "King of the World" by David Remnick.
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, it does come down to personal taste I think, although also how much you've read/learned about Liston already I guess.

    I've a wee soft spot for Mee generally though.
     
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  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Interesting ... I've shied awat from Ali books as I feel he is so over exposed but I might check out K of the W ... Thanks ..
     
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  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    It's a very good book about Ali in the mid 60's. Probably the best book out there about Ali and that particular era of his career.
     
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  11. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I wasn't really over impressed with this either. The part about Patterson being a coward, and saying he talked like a woman is garbage.
     
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  12. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    (You've read about the cancelled second fight before Mee.)
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, loads of times, the only details I read in the book that i'd never read before were on this topic - I knew almost everything that I read already, but there were some new bits and bobs about that fight that i'd never read, or hadn't remembered reading.
     
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  14. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny, I was just sitting in Barnes & Noble bookstore on Huntington Ave in Boston reading that part (-right on the site where Greb fought Kid Norfolk in the old Mechanics Buiding).
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Agree.

    I think that i'm glad i own that book just for the coverage on that, and for the picture on the uk cover which is quite cool.
     
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