Ali calling Jersey Joe Walcott the prettiest dancer in the ring

I think undisputed world champion fits him the best.

 

Not exactly, I'll make a post on that soon.

 

This. Walcott didn’t get the management of guys like Patterson, Ali, Frazier, or Tyson. He was in & out of work for many years raising a family & fighting on the side (“I went to bed hungry every night,”) & would’ve had an entirely different career trajectory had he been in the fortunate position of a full-time fighting apprenticeship from the get-go. The proof? His career between 1946-52.

I’d almost rather watch him & Ali in a dance-off than a fight.

 

One would think such a bag of tricks wouldn't lead to losing every third time you stepped into the ring.

 

This is what happens when you get your info entirely from Boxrec.com. Pay attention kids.

 

You can't judge everything by wins and losses bud.

 

I wish someone would come up with something like Sabermetrics in baseball for boxing. There are all kinds of arguments among baseball fans, especially between Boomers, who grew up with the bottom line of the old batting average/home runs/RBIs chyron lines for hitters and wins/losses/ERA for pitchers on the Game of the Week, and those who dig below the surface.

Case in point: The pitcher Jim Palmer is rightfully in the Hall of Fame, but old school fans rate him higher than he ought to be because they focus on the bottom line that he won 20 games eight times in his career.

The more modern analysis goes beyond the bottom line and the obvious to point out that Palmer never threw a pitch in his life except in front of historically elite defenses, so it’s not an absolute that he would have had the same record if he’d pitched in front of an average or below average defense.

 

You can rank Walcott as a AGT or not, but I think it is wrong calling him a journeyman at that point of being a contender and later champion during that point.

 

Do I take the opinion of a renowned and very clever fighter or some journalists…
That’s a tough call. Perhaps and I suggest you do the same - I’ll just open my eyes and watch him fight instead.

 

I could make a highlight reel of Tommy Morrison destroying opponents and make the claim he was some great powerbroker in the division, but he was not. He was a hyped journeyman. But someone only seeing those reels decades later might think differently.

It's actually all in the title of this thread. I'll agree, he was a pretty dancer. Wake me up when judges are instructed to score on pretty dancing as well as effective aggression. Looking cool in the ring, dancing, useless motion, is not to be rewarded. And his record speaks for itself. Every third opponent figured him out, pretty dancing and all.

 

All that wasted motion impressed James Toney and Buddy McGirt... Befuddled Louis, worked on Charles who as smart as you could be. We can watch plenty of film of JJW this isn't a couple minutes of footage LOL his intelligence is obvious (To 2 World Champion's at least...) his heights speak for itself, I'll suppose the Newspaper men knew better back then "In the old days" such is the decline of modern boxers even among our best! OR perhaps it's the Newspaper men and you who can't see what McGirt is talking about?