Ali deserves to be # 2 on ESPN list of greatest fighters

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  1. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Only Heavyweight to dominate two decades

    Only fighter to beat 7 Hall of Famers

    Only heavyweight to win the title twice as a huge underdog

    No heavyweight came close to beating two fighters as good as Foreman and Liston to win the title

    Let's not forget he beat Foreman,Fraizer,Pattersom,Foster,Quarry,Lyle,Shavers,Ellis,Young,Norton,
    and Bonevena without his great foot speed. No other fighter
    in boxing history has been able to beat great fighters without their biggest asset
     
  2. texluh

    texluh New Member Full Member

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    Ali was greater than Holmes. But if Ali dominated 2 decades, maybe Holmes did too. Ali only reigned 1964-67 in the 60s, and 1975-77 in the 80s. He dominated in the 70s as in he was the best fighter with the best impact, but Foreman, Frazier and Norton either had the beating of him, or the title, for much of the time. Ali was the greatest, but ...... in the 60s his star shone brief and bright (I personally believe Liston would have beaten him 2 years earlier), and in the 70s he was surrounded by great fighters, and then good fighters who really should have been given the decisions.
     
  3. texluh

    texluh New Member Full Member

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    sorry - i meant 1974 -78 in the 70s.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I agree, you can make a case for him being number 2 all time. What he accomplished was pretty remarkable. The great heavyweights he beat and the ongoing list of excellent fighters and contenders. I have him in my top 5 all time (number 4) behind Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, and Harry Greb (who beat 10 hall of famers to my knowledge - Gene Tunney, Maxie Rosenbloom, Mike Gibbons, Tommy Gibbons, Tommy Loughran, Mickey Walker, Tiger Flowers, Battling Levinsky, Jack Dillon, and Jack Blackburn). For heavyweights, I have him number 1.
     
  5. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree Ali is a legend and should be at 1 or 2
     
  6. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ross, Caniz, Greb, Langford, and others have MORE HALL of Famers on there list. 7 is a short number imo compare to 20 or so on these guys list.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    SRR, then Armstrong is fine.