Ali was very calculating, He knew when to use racism, when best suited for his needs. He knew when to use religion, when best suited for his needs. He knew when to take a stand against the war, when best suited for his needs. Smart guy, with an IQ of 78.
Good point. Alan Sugar would probably score fairly low in an IQ test,but he's proved himself a pretty sharp character.
So whats your idea of a meaningful life? Being a old grumpy fart like you, who does nothing but cares for himself? I only make the bold assumption that you only care for yourself because of your need to discredit a man who you know full and well helped many many people. you judge him on his marital relationships, his religion, and his personal family life. Yet ignore every single positive aspect about his life. Well.. The ONLY reason you would be this desperate to find fault in a man like Ali, is because of your own insecurities about your own life. No person tries this hard to discredit a man who has done so much obvious good, unless there is something internal he is dealing with. You, my friend, have 0 certainty in your life, and what you have accomplished thus far. You are not happy with your life. Therefor, you feel the need to bring the guy everybody loves the most, down a peg. I know people like you. Your the type of guy who always tries to bring the energy of the room down. You try to make the confident person, lose confidence. And its even worse Duce, when a person over a message board is telling you this. And please, you can go on for 10 pages telling me how I am wrong with this analysis, but the transparency of your unhappy life is unmistakable. 50 years from now, The man behind Duce Il' computer = nothing Muhammad Ali = Legend This content is protected :hi::hi:
your wrong He wrote most of it Angelo wrote some Bundini wrote some other friends wrote some step your research game up
Nah he had a ghostwriter I'll find the article when I can b arsed and no belittling Ali is not due to insecurities or why else would il Duce praise other boxers? He is just disproving this myth of Muhammad Ali as the greatest and being such a wonderful person.
REZ,,,,,,,,,,,your very deep!!! I said he was 'smart',,,,,,,,,,,and 'quick-witted' Can anybody have a conflicting opinion, without you judging them for their honest thoughts. This is just a Boxing Site,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,not the 'World Report'. But don't make stupid remarks, like 50 years from now Muhammad Ali will be a legend and I won't. And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Just where would you place Muhammad Ali, if you were comparing him to Mother Theresa.
you and that cockhead Alecvoice are just haters full stop. There have been many points brung to the attention of you and that idiot, and in fairness you have addressed them in your own opinion, but that other **** hasnt answered half of what hes been asked. Its just a constant barrage of anti-ali bull****, over and over. Id love 5 mins in a room with him just to have a proper too and fro. A ****in idiot
jm36, I acknowledge your counter-points. But in all fairness, I have never knocked anyone for their opinion on this site. Look at all my posts,,,,a hater,,,,,,,,,,no way. Damn, I have posted more positive information and details concerning Sonny Liston over the last few weeks than anybody. And he was no Saint,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Il duce and alexvoce are probably the sites' biggest Ali haters hands down. even though I don't agree with ali's politic views on Vietnam, (because I'm not a Muslim and I don't believe in that religion) you still have to admire his courage and heart, as a fighter and a character. he was a good person, with bad and good intentions. period. you guys are really just nitpicking at this point
Ali was a pawn for the Nation of Islam, which basically was a muslim KKK. Ali had a very low intelligence level and was easily manipulated by other blacks. His taunting of Patterson and Terrell are good examples of what kind of person he was.
I think that people shoud be held accountable for their actions, Ali was a great boxer no question, he was just a ****, mean and egotisical. I am not professing to be a saint, I can be a **** as well , but I will always look after my own and look after the people that have looked after me, Ali is not this sort of man, as his interations with Joe will attest. Ali has not done a thing for 'the Black Man' on the contrery he has spawned other ****s like Leonard, Floyd, Mundane and Haye. ( Ali is streets ahead of the above mentioned guys as a boxer).
TommyG, My favorite all-time fighter is Larry Holmes,,,,,,does that make me an Ali-hater too. I'm just offering a counter-opinion, to stimulate discussion. Where have I lied,,,,,,,,,,