Ali isn't as good as we think...

You right man.

Joe Louis KO 1 (insert name here)

 

GREAT POST. I agree. Ali is and was overrated. Just like Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Joe Montana, Babe Ruth, Tiger Woods, etc;

Those guys suck!

 

well as a combonation and there is an argument and it's strong i got him top 3 sum got him top 5 anything else is hating

 

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know Foreman fought and beat Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Morrison, etc.. I didn't know he fought and beat the best HW's of that era after coming back.

 

LMAO ... Wlad is Cleveland Williams man ... as for Lennox ... there would be no Lennox without there being an Ali/Clay

Ali would have ruined the Klitschkos ...

 

Elaborate. The only one of those four I don't see Evander being crushed by is Norton, and even that seems iffy.

 

My I.Q. is higher than you're inflated opinion of yourself. Ali's power
was rarely if ever a factor in his storied career. He won on speed,
athleticism, incredibe hand and especially foot movement and was
a great ring general. You are an uneducated, lowclass street urchin
that desperately needs to get an education so you can pursue a
debate without resorting to adhominem attacks and pathetic profane
tirades. In short, grow the hell up and try to learn the basics of
boxing and it's history.

 

All of the guys you've listed in the esteem of Ali had something in common that Ali doesn't have

They set statistics and winning streaks above and beyond anything that had ever been seen in their sport before, especially Ruth, Jordan, Gretzky and Woods.

Ali didn't do that.

The personality is worth more than the boxer with Ali.

 

Dude, that's just not so ... Ali lost 3 1/2 years of his prime .. he was generally hated by whites and especially so for his stand on the war and his religion .. but he was far and away as dominant as Ruth, Jordan, Gretzky, and Woods. Being the heavyweight champ was still a bigger prize than that afforded by football, basketball, hockey (lol), or golf at this time. The US begrudgingly came around to Ali's greatness in spite of his color (2/3 of the US is 'white') over time. Ali is a sport GIANT ... he directly influenced generations of boxers. His handspeed remains unparalleled for a big man to this very day. His style, fluidity, and combination punching for a big man remains the gold standard of heavyweight boxing ... ask Suger Ray Leonard, Roy Jones Junior, Lennox Lewis and countless others and they will all pay homage to the man .. and certainly not merely because of his 'personality'.

 

Ali was a true and complete boxer. Most of today's heavyweights have something lacking, either heart, stamina, skills, intelligence, or willingness to take on the best. That's why Ali is called the greatest.

 

Muhammad Ali defeated almost every top heavyweight in his era, which has been called the golden age of heavyweight boxing.
Ali was named "Fighter of the Year" by Ring Magazine more times than any other fighter, and was involved in more Ring Magazine "Fight of the Year" bouts than any other fighter.
He is an inductee into the International Boxing Hall of Fame and holds wins over seven other Hall of Fame inductees. He is also one of only three boxers to be named "Sportsman of the Year" by Sports Illustrated. He is regarded as one of the best pound for pound boxers in history.
In 1999, Ali was crowned "Sportsman of the Century" by Sports Illustrated and the BBC.

'nuff said

 

you just owned yourself!!!!!!!!:good

 

dude cant forget Walter Payton & Hank Aaron....those lames were ass to the 10th power

 

I'm curious what "basics of boxing" would lead anyone sane to the conclusion that Ali had no more power at his disposal than Chris Byrd. :think