"Ali-Marciano" '69 comp. fight...

Marciano was faster hit harder and put on much more pressure than Chuvalo.....I laugh when some of these posters think it would be an easy win for Ali....I think Louis and Marciano would be the wrong fighters for him....Ali was great vs the slow heavyhanded fighters.....Marciano was a different animal

 

Agreed. I don't think Marciano or Louis would be any more wrong for him than he would be for Louis and Marciano themselves but I also don't see how they could be counted out in match-ups against Ali as easily as they are. These are all great fighters we are talking about.

There is a myth of invincibility about the "prime" Ali which I don't really agree with.

 

I have this too ,pure entertainment.
Two versions were actually made, one had Ali winning by late tko.
Marciano was pissed that on a couple of occasions Ali dislodged his toupee with jabs,he wondered if it was on purpose .
The story is that Rocky went to his tragically early grave never knowing the result of the figth,but Skeehan's book said he did know that the had won it.

 

ali beats marciano 10/10 imo

 

Joe Frazier spoke of the myth on Ali and said he would bet his house that Louis and Marciano would beat Ali and I think they both had an excellent chance to do so. When did Ali look unbeatable vs Cleveland Williams, Ernie Terrel, Foley,Cooper Moore, Frazier....I can see Liston 1 and Foreman being great fights for him but the slow big punchers were his cup of tea, not the swarming pressure fighters....Frazier, Norton,Cooper,Spinks....Marciano was a great fighter to discount him so lightly shows the way he is undermined by many of the younger posters

 

Only a 1960s version of ali would beat marciano. the 1970s ali would get battered and pummeled on the ropes.

 

This was the same Ali, which was dropped & serverly hurt against Henry Cooper? Imagine him getting tagged by a prime Marciano? It would be a tough, tough fight. But don't dismiss this as an easy victory for Ali. Ali would have to withstand more pressure & harder punches than Frazier could ever throw at him.

 

i've never watched the movie fight but i read that here in the UK they had to change it to ali winning as the public wouldn't accept the marciano ko result.

 

I agree with both of you guys.

However, I don't have 100% faith in this "Superfight Computer." Didn't they use that same computer to predict the Joe Frazier/Bob Foster fight? The "expert" computer predicted that Foster would knock out Frazier in 5 rounds, but in the actual fight, Frazier knocked out Foster in only two rounds. I believe that Rocky would beat Ali, but I don't trust the computer entirely.

The computer was right, however, in the sense that it picked the style of Rocky to beat Ali. It predicted that a pressure fighter would cut the ring and reduce Ali's speed, which is exactly what Frazier did a few years later.

 

No you're getting him mixed up with someone else. We're talking about the guy that put on a masterful display of boxing against Sonny Liston:deal

 

Like he let him win?

 

Yes, I believe he knew.