Ali/Marciano who wins the real fight.

Ali dominates landing everything in his arsenal, far faster than Walcott and Charles who took the early rounds against Marciano but weren't strong/fit enough to do the same down the stretch, Ali was.

This could go 1 of a few ways, Ali dominates, cuts Marciano to ribbons and it gets stopped around the 6th, Ali dominates, takes a few rounds off and closes it down the stretch, or just a wide UD. Marciano is a great fighter but he'd get overwhelmed by a phenomenal athlete and fighter

 

The Rock's opponent Joe Louis was basically as big as Ali...except for reach.

The pre-1971 Ali would do better than the FOTC Ali against The Rock.

Frazier, Foreman, Norton & Shavers all had Ali on the ropes....not a good thing when Rocky broke bones and blood vessels with his punches.

The post-computer fight comments from the two "actors" were: "he is very fast" and "even in sparring, his punches hurt."

But the bottom line is, if Rocky puts Ali down like Frazier & Cooper did, Ali ain't getting up.

But the key thing is.....can Rocky catch him.

 

I'm not so sure of that. Frazier was an underrated finisher. I think Ali was the only one he ever left off the hook (no pun intended). And prime Ali had probably even better recuperative powers than he had in FOTC.

 

Ali aint getting up??? IF and its a big IF Rocky drops Ali you really believe there is no way he gets up??? Frazier, Foreman and Shavers, you say it as though they are some featherfisted club fighters, two of whom are argued over as to being the biggest hitter of all time, the third is one of the best big banging attrition stoppers of all time.

Noone put Ali down and kept him down. Foreman, Shavers, Lyle, Liston, Patterson, Moore none of these guys even put him down.

Rocky is the greatest over achiever in boxing history, in my opinion, I just cant see him getting by Ali

 

The only thing I can guarante is that both fighters would suffer and leave a bit of themselves in the ring.

 

None of those guys had the type of one punch KO power that Rocky did.

 

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I dont think i agree, Marciano had as many attrition stoppages as those guys. Rocky hit hard absolutely no question, but so did these guys. How many 210lbers did Rocky stop with one punch, let alone ones with Alis speed and chin? 45 year old Foreman sparked 220-230lb Moorer with one shot. Yes you may point to Walcott but it was not the first time Joe had been KOd. Ali has never not got up

 

That is the thing with Ali though, nothing is text book. Ali wouldnt throw the jab but hit Rocky with lead rights. Hed hold and walk Rocky around, push him. Hit him with lead hooks, lead uppercuts. People dont realise how physically strong Ali was, watch his fights he dominates opponents in clinches, Foreman and Liston have both attested to this. He also hit much harder than he is given credit for again Foreman and Liston among others confirm this. Shavers and Frazier both said they hit Ali harder than they have hit anyone else, Foreman too. Im not saying Rocky cant shake him up i just feel Alis chin is proven and i cant see a scenario where Rocky can outpoint Ali

 

this is a hypothetical thread.....but on this video Marciano's k.o. vs Walcott is voted Numero Uno.....the type of punch felt all the way up your arm like a batted home run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4bDdjgVtAc&feature=related

 

The right Rock KO'd Walcott was as much about timing and precision as power. It's just perfect. Sure, if he landed his right just like that...

But, believe it or not, this actually go both ways. It would be interesting to see how Marciano would react to the left hook Ali landed on Bonavena, the combination he landed on Williams, or the rights he landed on Foreman and Lyle.

Thing is, I don't think either of them would be likely to expose themselves to shots like that, but if they did Rocky might very well be in as much danger of being KO'd as Ali. Ali actually KO'd some very durable guys, that should not be forgotten.

 

How many are aware of Marciano being blinded by substance in eyes from rounds 5 through 11 in Walcott fight?

 

Willams is over rated and was pretty much shot. plus he didnt have the best of chins. I think Rocky would have taken them well. People are blowing that fight into this not stopble Ali, when it relly was Ali beating up a past it over the hill Williams.

He wore down both Bonavena and Foreman, it was not there chins that fail them there, but there condition.

 

That's because he never fought Ali. Don't forget that Ali is much bigger and stronger than Walcott on top of being a better boxer boxer, more fluent and with a better offensive arsenal. I think this fight is a mismatch. Marciano never fought a BIG good boxer.