Ali/Norton 3: Horrendous Robbery ?

This was perhaps the worst robbery I have seen. Norton won the fight clean.

10-5, or 9-6. And if the judges gave Norton the win, I think he would get respect he deserves.

It is a pity ESPN does not show many Norton fights. Norton had great speed, and mean body attack, and the stamina to fight all night. Sure, Foreman axed him quickly, but he did the same to Frazier. I find it interesting that Ali could not hurt Norton, but he could rock and stun Frazier.

Chins are part mental I guess. Vs a feared puncher, Norton backed up on the ropes and froze.

 

I agree with everything said one of the worst. I am an Ali fan but lets face reality.

 

Absolutley not. It was all down to the last round, whoever won the 15th won the fight.

 

:rofl

 

Either way it doesn't prove much. Ali was pretty much shot by that point anyway, his wits were his only strong point by then.

As for Norton getting the respect he deserves, maybe if he didn't freeze up and get blown out by almost every big puncher he ever faced I'd agree. As it is, a very good boxer at HW(definitely not good enough to beat a prime Ali though), but too limited to be considered great.

 

And believe it or not, all of the Ali detractors on ESB point to Norton, Shavers, and Young as to why they think he is overrated.

I guess they didn't know he fought all of them past his prime.

 

Now there's a good post.

 

As if Frazier, a consenus top ten ATG heavyweight didn't freeze up on even bigger stages than Norton against huge punchers.

Bull**** to view Norton in such a light when 90% of the people that fought both Foreman and especially Shaver's were blown out in similar fashion.

 

Frazier only lost to Foreman among huge punchers :huh

Heck he only lost to Ali n' Foreman period.

 

That changes what I'm saying how?

How many fights did the man have, total?

He lost two by devastating knockout to the same man that blew Norton out, and was dropped, hard, by other hard punchers in Bonvena.

You think there's no reasoning behind Frazier not fighting Mac Foster? Shavers? Even potentially Lyle?

 

Well, Foreman was really the only huge puncher he faced. I think Cooney and Shavers hit harder than anyone Frazier fought besides Foreman.

 

Cooney feasted on the corpses of 70's fighters.

Lyle and Young catch no flake for being stopped by Cooney.

Norton does... Why?

 

Because it continues and verifies the trend in Norton's career of going down against big punchers. Lyle went up against Shavers and came out on top, and was far more competitive against Foreman, so that proves he could take big punches from a massive hitter. Young also proved he could take on a big puncher by beating Foreman. Lyle, Young and Norton all fought Shavers, Cooney and Foreman. Young and Lyle were able to beat 1 out of 3 of them, Norton folded against all three and lost in devastating fashion.

 

Fair call. I guess it boils down to small things and personal opinion, like Norton's early loss to Garcia but admittedly he was not his best, and whether one thinks Frazier fought to the past prime stage Norton did when he lost a couple to huge hitters. Some might also argue the power merits of some of Fraziers opponents.

I'd be surprized if Frazier avoided those you mention. Heck, he had the balls to go back and take on Foreman again, in fact he wouldn't have missed it in the world.