i have seen this fight many times and i found it hard to score ...can anybody tell me the rounds won by ali or norton specially round eleven .. and why norton corner thought he won the fight before the decision?
I think Ali won the 11th on all cards i'll have to check. What I do know of the top of my head is that Norton was awarded a TOTAL of four of the final seven rounds on all three judges cards (out of a possible 21). That's bad scoring.
It should never be like that though. If it's a draw that enough for the champ to keep his belt but a judge shouldn't give a razor-thin round to a fighter just because he's the champion.
................I agree. You don't "lean." You judge each round individually, then do the math at the end. Whomever comes out with the larger number at the end wins. Quite simple.
I agree. The best Norton could have settled for is a draw. I actually had Ali winning it by a round, but I can understand a draw.
There's a school of thought that says you have to go after the champion and rip the crown from his head. This I disagree with, and I believe it is detrimental to boxing in that it leads to robberies like Ali-Norton III. Norton won that bout, just like in my opinion, Jimmy Young deserved to win the title aginst Ali earlier that same year.
i really hate the way young fought that night ,, like a small kid escaping with his head between the rops !!
Norton beat Ali that nite fairly easily and Ali could do nothing against Norton in that fight. The bodyshot that Norton landed on Ali ...had him hurt bad(Forgot the rd). Ali got his butt kicked just as he did against Shavers and recieved another gift ...and that's coming from a huge Ali fan.
I hate it when people say garbage like "you have to take the belt from the champ if you wanna be the champ!" Well, what the **** happened to being the champ then? If you have to get a gift decision just to keep the belt, then your sorry ass doesn't deserve to have the belt any more, does it atsch It's a total joke that contenders are held to a higher standard than champions...when it should be the other way around, if anything
Coneth, Do you have your own score card? I too think Norton was robbed. It was not the first time the judges were on Ali's side. In the Ali vs Lyle fight, somehow the judges had Ali up on points at the time of the stoppage. Utter bollocks. PS: Who's that drummer in your avatar? Is that John Bonham?
after the second round ali started rope a dope to make norton tire but that didint work and norton gave him strong bodyshots one of them hurt him in lower rips but as a great champ ali absorbed it and continued to fight using dancing
Well that was mostly trace back into the late 1900's all the way up to the late 1920's in the ND era. In that day the champion, could choose to defend his title in a ND bout. No desion was giving if it went the distant. Johnny Dundee was mostly known for useing this loop hole to defend his crown. Back than you RELLY had to rip the title from the Champs head. If not, the bout is a ND and the champ keeps his title.