Ali resume or Holyfield resume

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ZoDoX, Feb 20, 2022.


Holyfield resume or Ali resume

This poll will close on Feb 20, 2032 at 8:58 AM.
  1. Holyfield

    3 vote(s)
    13.0%
  2. Ali

    20 vote(s)
    87.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. ZoDoX

    ZoDoX Member banned Full Member

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    I got holyfield
     
  2. ZoDoX

    ZoDoX Member banned Full Member

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    Bowe
    Tyson
    Moorer
    Holmes
    Foreman
    Qawi
    Thomas
    Dokes
    Mercer
    Botha
    Ruiz or
    Foreman
    Frazier
    Norton
    Patterson
    Liston
    Young
    Lyle
    Shavers
    Spinks
    Williams
    Chuvalo
    Ellis
     
  3. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali imo, it was all so consistent as well.
     
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  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    By resume, do you mean simply how many good fighters they each faced? Or do you mean how many good fighters they BEAT?
     
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  5. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now that I have time, my detailed answer is.... If we compare their best wins, it has to go to Ali.

    Having Norton x2, Frazier x2, Liston x2, Patterson x2, and Foreman already trumps id say almost every single heavyweight resume, and thats ONLY the top of it, when we include Quarry x2, Lyle, Young, Foster, Bugner, etc.. just doesn't give Holyfield a chance at all imo.

    This is to not discredit Holyfield, his wins over Bowe and Tyson x2 are legendary by themselves.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Close. Both brilliant resumes.
    I lean toward Ali.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    As much as I love Evander Holyfield, I think Muhammad Ali’s resume beats his by a fairly wide margin. Ali has a strong argument for the greatest heavyweight of all time with only Joe Louis rivaling him for that spot. I personally have them tied
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Qawi was at CW and the win over Botha means about as much as Holmes second win over Weaver. Remove them and add Stewart, Rahman and Douglas instead.

    As for Ali you should add quite a few 60's wins: Moore, Cooper, Jones, Mildenberger, Folley and, especially, Terrell. As for the 70's: MacFoster was a decent one as well and Lewis was a fringe contender. And Bonavena and Bugner should be added. Solid contenders.

    I'm surprised that there even are votes for Holy. I mean h2h you can always argue more or less any way you want, but resume is a no contest between these two.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol shouldn’t be close. Ali by a wide margin.
     
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not close, Ali by a country mile
     
  11. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd rather have young George Foreman for one of my wins than old Foreman. Was anyone actually impressed by him beating a 42 year old?

    He beat a worn out Tyson but generally, lost to too many up and comers. The heavyweights are just too big for him
     
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  12. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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