Ali"s worst opponent ?

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  1. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dunn had no chance but he tried his heart out and shook Ali at least once with a straight left. Coopman was a human punching bag and fell to the canvas from pitter patter blows.
     
  2. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Greetings again Houdini. I believe it was Eckard Dagge (the German) who Dunn stopped to earn the shot against Ali. Dagge said, before the bout, that he wouldn't face Ali, had he won, because he didn't feel he was in his class.
    Dunn should have taken the same advice.
     
  3. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one is disputing Dunn was not in Alis class....neither was Coopman. Again at least Dunn tried.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

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    Coopman,Dunn,Evangelista,Wepner....these guys could not come close to today s top 10 and throw in Leon and London
     
  5. beast boxer

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    In his thirst fight with cooper, cooper knocked ali down and cooper would have koed ali in next round if alis trainer dundie had not riped alis glove to buy extra time and he also used smelling saltes witch if they had been found out ali would have been disqualified straight away. So the only reason ali wuon that fight is becouse they cheated. Angelo dundie admitted that is the only reason ali won in aan interview. Plus ali was 2 stone heavier and a lot younger. So henry cooper was simply just better than ali
     
  6. davidjay

    davidjay Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Seriously - does anyone in the world not realise the truth behind the Cooper 'extra time' myth by now?
     
  7. beast boxer

    beast boxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali trainer angelo dundee admitted it himself watch the interview and watch the footage
     
  8. SolomonDeedes

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    A good question to ask the tiny dwindling band who still cling to the myth: can they find a single contemporary source from 1963 which says anything about Ali getting extra time to recover?

    The answer is no they can't. The story mysteriously pops up in 1966 during the build-up to Cooper's world title shot. Considering Cooper was generally given almost no chance of lifting the title, a story that he was cheated in the first fight certainly did the promotion no harm.
     
  9. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whether or not Ali got extra time may be debatable, but the illegal use of smelling salts is not.
     
  10. SolomonDeedes

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    But the idea that he could have been disqualified for doing something which was both allowed and commonplace in rings all over the world is a fantasy. That has never happened. Jose Napoles, for instance, used smelling salts in a fight in London in the 70s and they were simply confiscated.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Don't lump Evangelista in with the rest of those. :nono
     
  12. Seamus

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    Still, better than Liston in Maine.
     
  13. fists of fury

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    Has to be Coopman, especially since he was intoxicated at the time.
     
  14. Stevie G

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    Good post. Lubbers performance was n't bad at all,considering
     
  15. AlFrancis

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    Bernd August