Ali "The Greatest" losing to Spinks

Even the odd magazine accused him of it.

 

Stating one doesn't care what career point something has happened kills the thread right off the bat really.

 

You really can't think much of Fury right now.

 

In fairness, he did win the first 2’rounds against Spinks.

 

Only if you view the fight in a vacuum.

Typically we make allowances for fighters that are clearly way past their best, as Ali was in 1978.

You're not suggesting this result should diminish Ali's all-time standing?

 

So do you base your entire opinion on Ali on the Spinks fight?

 

Well you should care at what point of his career that it happened.

Because that’s why it did happen.

It’s why it’s hardly ever brought up.

The great man should never even have been licensed at that point.

We should never have seen him fight after Manila.

We should never ever have seen the Holmes and Berbick fights.

 

I don't really understand the point of this thread in all honesty you're all over the place quite frankly.

Robinson who's considered the P4P GOAT had quite a few losses at the end of his career to fighters that wern't anywhere close to his level does that define him ?

Basically you're saying let's ignore every other aspect of Ali's amazing career, and the fact he has best Heavyweight resume of all time and most memorable fights in Heavyweight history which is why he's considered the GOAT Heavyweight.

But let's ignore all those amazing facts and just define Ali based on one fight ? and in your mind that's the reason he shouldn't be considered the "GOAT Heavyweight" even though he had early stages of Parkinson's and was way past his prime ?

I think that's a very silly way of looking at things in all honesty. You might aswell say that for any ATG or great fighter then that had losses at the end of their career.

Spinks was an Olympic Gold Medallist was young hungry and had one of the best workrates for a Heavyweight. It's not out of that realms that Spinks could take advantage of a very lackluster shot Ali who primarily layed on the ropes and just got out worked.

 

How do you think Rocky would have done against Leon at 36 years old?

 

Because Ali is an overrated False God. He was washed up by the time he was 34. Norton, Shavers, and arguably Young, had just beaten him. Spinks was the jackal who showed up for the scraps. Even in this post people try and pump up Ali, by praising Spinks. Do you think Lennox would have lost Leon at age 36? No!

 

Let's stipulate he was washed and should have quit at 34. He would have been 44-2 with no unavenged defeats, two wins over consensus top ten hw atgs, two wins over a bubble top ten atg, three wins over former Gold Medalists, and eight wins over other members of the International Boxing Hall Of Fame.

 

This post is all over the place.

 

I don't think Ali would intentionally lose to Spinks just to beat him in the rematch.
Ali had too much pride , just to let someone beat him.
Now being overconfident, and undertrained? Factor in the early onset of Parkinsons?
Yes I believe that's what cost him against Spinks in the first fight.

 

SRR, at 33, lost to Ralph Jones who was on a five fight losing streak and would lose two of his next three fights. Does that make Robinson a false god also?