Ali v tyson

I firmly believe the ear biting in Holy 2 was Tysons idea of quitting with honour without having to get the same beating he got last time.

 

I'm talking Frazier II and III era. That Ali doesn't get KO'd by anybody. Look, I'm giving Tyson some slack here, when, if we're honest, if our lives depended on it we'd pick Ali without a second's hesitation.

 

That at a certain point, Tyson decides a fight is unwinnable a effectively gives up.

Fumbling for mouthpiece against Douglas instead of trying to get up
Ear biting agianst Holy
Looking to get KO'd against Lewis

He showed a similar trait in his last two defeats but I'll cut him some slack....


I think he'd get to that point with Ali.

 

Of course, quit job of the year. I thought everybody knew that. :huh

 

What serious trouble? Near the end of round 14? Yeah, Tyson would really be able to throw the same amout of leather than Frazier for 14 rounds.

 

I guess thats the point I'm trying to make....

 

Dude, are you kidding me? Your claiming that Tyson threw the fight with Douglas? Did you even watch what happened? He got smacked with 4 flush shots that almost took his head off -- that's why he was 'fumbling with the mouthpiece.'

And Tyson wasn't 'looking' to get KO'd by Lewis. He gassed out very early into the fight and had no chance of winning after that. Tyson without stamina is like Foreman without power.

As for the ear bite -- who knows why that happened? I don't believe he was trying to 'get out of the fight', as he was actually winning that round. It probably had to do with the headbutting and the fact that Tyson was a pretty unstable guy.

 

To be honest with everyone, the speed of Tyson's hook is what bothers me for the Ali match up. Tyson's power is up there with the likes of Foreman, Louis, Lewis, Shavers, etc... I'm not here to debate who hit harder. They are all in the same ball park. Ali never faced anyone with Tyson's speed to compliment his power.

Ali's name has begun to bore me on this forum. It seems as if everyone keeps mentioning Ali so much that I want to pick Everett Martin to beat him. People even want to make him into some sci-fi monster, and wonder what would happen if. I sometimes feel like I have wandered onto some comedy scetch where people just keep mentioning Ali to the point that it is funny.

I really have no choice other than picking Ali, but I wish I could do otherwise.

Ali is my favorite fighter ever, but damn. I here Ali's name so much, that it is becoming cliche to pick him against anyone.

I have only been on this forum for 2 months by the way.

 

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That sure was an enjoyable read. Tyson's power diminishes during the late rounds as well. Ali has the perfect style to offset Tyson. What everyone forgets, Tyson never had the mental strength to match Ali either.

 

A man versus a boy. Ali is way too tough for Tyson.