Ali vs A.J.

AJ. Easy night.

 

View the Ernie Terrell fight. There ya go

 

Ali by KO, Joshua would not make to the 15th round...................Ali too fast for Roid Joshua...............

 

Joshua doesn't deal with movement well and prime 60's Ali was the most agile heavyweight you'll ever see. Honestly there isn't another heavyweight who poses a bigger stylistic problem for Joshua than Ali. Watch how the much smaller Savon danced circles around Joshua. I rewatched this fight recently and it was even more one sided than I remembered.

Ali always beat the big men, his speed was always too big an advantage, it was small fast heavies that gave Ali issues, guys like Banks, Frazier, Spinks. The big guys like Liston, Ellis, Foreman he dominated even when past prime.

Throw in Ali's epic chin, smarts and mind games and Ali wins a UD.

 

oh please not another one. after the last thread courtesy of James Smith, i can't handle this again.

 

Ali is a nightmare for Joshua. I seriously doubt Joshua would land too often. Joshua has skills, but so did Liston and we know how that worked out against Ali. Ali had fun beating guys who were tall and guys with longer reach. Ali also was blessed with a good chin. I think Joshua would be breathing so hard in the later rounds. I can't imagine him surviving. Ali would eventually deliver the KO.

 

Ernie was around 210 pounds and resembled a surf board.

 

The thread should actually be how could Ali win since no one will actually do the match up and use other fighters he fought and folk lore to give Ali the nod here....lol

The only difference in this thread to last one is posters cannot claim he hasn't fought any jabbers or solid chinned guys now. Highly doubt it will keep away the flock that do not use reasonable logic or views in perspective on the actual match.

 

Ali could take a punch but a 1960s Ali aginst a 2018 AJ is ridiculous as AJ is getting the best state of the art training the best scientific backing and the best nutrition . AJ is a machine compared to vintage Ali
AJ late stoppage or points but it is not a fair fight based on training and nutrition plans

Henry Coopers nutrition plan Fried breakfast ! Most of us on here have a more sientific approach to what we eat now !

 

Drop both them in the ring at their primes...I say Ali embarrasss him. The gap in skill level is just too much. I always think of the current heavyweight division as novices compared to Ali,s era. I d go as far to say that their novices even compared to Tyson's era not that a lot of people will agree with that.

Look at the fighters back then...they could do it all. Box or fight. All mostly had great jabs. Could fight on the front foot and the back foot. Could fight on the move. Had a great variety of shots. Could take shots better than today's heavyweights. Had good gas tanks. Had good balance. The list could go on all day. Nowadays half them can't throw a decent jab to save their lives. Their gas tanks go as soon as the fight pace increases their mindful of that so fight accordingly. Very few of them can fight on the move. They need to be stationary to throw shots. Most of them cant put shots together. Its like night and day compared to years gone by. Very few of them even excel at one thing. Its been the result of focusing on the sport science side of things too much. Their is a call for sport science but not at the level we,re currently seeing. Joshua is a novice in terms of boxing skills. They just learn and work on gameplans to be effective. But as soon as someones good enough to exploit that in this case Ali. The gulf in skill levels would be apparent.

Look at the heavyweight champs today...parker/wilder/Joshua. All of them novices in terms of boxing skills. Parker/Joshua totally predictable for a start. Wilder can't throw punches correctly. Its a combination of working too closely on game plan tactics to beat opponents and sport science that's got them in the mess their in. The guys from the eighties/nineties backwards learned the proper way to be a boxer...by hundreds of rounds of hard sparring before health and safety took over. It taught them everything they needed to know about boxing.

I m not criticizing the boxers of today tbh...its for the best they put a stop to the brutal/hard sparring. And the heavyweight divisions a half decent division nowadays. Its just that when comparing them with the guys of yesteryear...it needs to be taking into account that they are basically novices in terms of boxing skills.

 

cant see AJ catching him, hes a bit too slow, and not fit enough to apply the pressure long enough. And hes not even THAT slow by any measure, just glacial compared to ali. You need to be fast and consistent to catch ali out.

on the of chance he catches ali, mighty mo is good enough chinwise to recover and carry thefight.

Ali outpoints him, even a late tko.

 

You are deluded.

Even by your own logic: Ali is a novice compared to Lomachencko. But would you take loma over Ali H2H?