Ali vs A.J.

They cant because of the size. To beat joshua you need size. Then skill on top of that.

Size beat skills. In the modern SHW division we are talking battleship vs battleship. Not some small and silly firefight going on.

David Haye in my opinion is the best tweener of all time. But even he didnt beat a prime Klitschko.

 

I dont know , I dont know what you know about him . I have a really good understanding of drugs in sport I have been interested in it since the mid eighties . No qualification in it just always wanted to learn more . Never ever taken drugs myself .
I am obsessed about how the human body can be manipulated
One thing I do know is that it would be very s&&t if our favorite fighters are doing what the cyclist do .

What would be even more alarming is the fact that if they are taking stuff then they are more advanced in their science than we think . This means that they not only know what to take but they are also employing ways of avoidng the testers . This does not just mean they are cheats it means they are good at being cheats

It has always been said if we take drugs you could beat me in 1500 meter race
If we take drugs you could kill me in a boxing ring !

Serious stuff in this game I hope you are all wrong when you mention drugs !

 

Shot to **** Wlad looked like Ali against british robot on roids. In other words AJ is a bum, he shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence as Ali.

 

It's just really utterly disgusting that this is considered a legit comparison. Hilarious

 

AJ wouldn’t beat prime Klitcho either.

 

They can,t because of his size yes. But also because they lack skill/tools some of them of any kind hes also in incredible shape in comparison to a lot of them hes fighting. Haye at his best would have had a good shout at beating Joshua. And Hayes not all that skilled himself. Hes pretty much a fast twitch fighter who was pretty good at setting opponents up. Another one that worked on gameplans and natural attributes to beat opponents. Look at haye against klitchko....outside the ring afterwards he complained about his big toe. Said it stopped phase 3 of his attack...pushing off his foot for the attack. I m guessing phase one and two we,re putting him in position for the attack. The fighters nowadays need to try to fight using systems because they lack the basic skills necessary. Hayes fast reflex,s his shape and his heavy hands we,re enough to yo yo some of them bigger heavier fighters. But even he lacked the basic skills. Hayes not really a good boxer...he never was. Good fighter yes. Good boxer no.

Klitchko was a different matter...he was a skilled operator against guys he had the advantages over. The smaller man. Especially when they lacked the basic skills necessary. They walked into him straight on...none of them could get on their toes. No lateral movement. None of them had jabs or put punching together. They couldn't do much well.

This is all Klitschko needed to beat half of them...when they went forward he went back. Then they didn't,t know what to do. They usually reset. Klitschko would then edge up to just within range and jab them. If they came in quick which usually involved just falling in he,d just grab them and shut them down. Rinse and repeat. When he,d quietened them down he started sticking the right hand in. He mastered it. Tbf they kind of let him away with just grabbing opponents to keep his system going. But we,ve still to see anyone even go up on their toes using angles to get inside. Any sort of decent movement from any of the challengers. They dont know how to move about the ring. None of them had even decent footwork. They dont have the tools. They,ve been too busy working on gameplans .

Mike Tyson would have leathered Joshua. And he himself lacked some of the skills I ve listed. He was a system based fighter but he had it mastered. It was difficult for the guys with the good skillset to fight him...let alone Joshua who also lacks the skills.

 

Lol 19 brits voted on this thread.

 

Forget Joshua , Ali would be hard pressed against Usyk weighing in that 205 / 210 mark. Ali was only able to land 60 power punches on the stationary slow southpaw in his own era to 195 pound Mildenberger and was stunned on two occasions,.

Ali needed to stun an opponent most of the time to land a flurry , he's going to stun Joshua ? Maybe landing 500 punches.

Ali only landed 125 power shots on Frazier and the bell arguably saved Ali in the 11th. Ali's accuracy is highly overated and he was tired by the 3rd round . Everything about Ali is hyped to ridiculous proportions.

Imagine 250 counter puncher walking him down? Who doesn't waste punches.

Frazier also landed 160 power punches on Ali, but he's not hittable either ? Lol

Joshua did more damage with 30 power shots to Takam in the first 4 rounds than Parker did hitting him with 150 power punches for 12 rounds Think about that and then realize how easy it is for him to inflict damage.

The concept of Ali defeating Joshua is through pedestal placing.

 

Why?
I suspect that Ali from 60 ies had turned A.J face into a bloody mesh piece with jabs, far worse than ppl might imagine.
While Ali from 70 ies? In good shape A.J and Huck, even Dorticos had KTFOED him out cold, sorry guys.

 

Ali would take him into deep water and drown him

 

He’s been banned for a while now he’s not gonna respond

 

Ali would stomp a mud hole in AJ's ass and walk it dry.

 

Good. He's such a Joshua fanboy it's pathetic. Saying Joshua beats Ali is one thing but he took it too far when he said Joshua would be favored over prime Lennox Lewis. He was even in denial when Joshua got murdered by Ruiz by saing Ruiz beats Joe Frazier. Ridiculous.

 

Funny to see how this thread has evolved after the Ruiz loss

 

Despite what people say, size matters. Foreman was around the same size as Ali. Joshua is a lot bigger than both and hits harder in my opinion.

There is a reason why Usyk has bulked up a lot for this fight.