Ali Vs Tyson

You know what, Elite, I think I'll just do that. Discussing with you Tyson rent boys is to quote Ford Fairlane "like masturbating with a cheese grader: slightly amusing, but mostly painful". It's kind of a tired discussion, anyway, and I've said my piece. So long.

 

Ali must remain on his toes and move as long as possible. I say he does it successfully for the first 5 rounds, peppering and frustrating a Tyson who lunges viciously, regathers and continues the chase throughout, has his brief moments, but ultimately needs a stationary target to do his handiwork.

Tyson's left eye begins closing around Round 5, producing a sense of urgency in Kid Dynamite's corner. Rooney exhorts Mike to remain calm and keep at it; Ali has to slow down eventually.

The second part of the fight is less clear to me at the moment, but I see a trademark Tyson sudden swipe stunning Ali for Mike's best chance at a KO around Round 8. Ali moves and holds to survive and Tyson's onslaught is thwarted.

By Round 10, Ali looks quite tired but Tyson is folding, seemingly spent, in low spirits, left eye half-shut. Yes, Ali couldn't stop Terrell though he tried his darndest, but Tyson would use up prodigious energy trying to pin down his foe, avoiding Ali's torrents and swinging at quite a bit of air. Ali has proven more efficient in his fluid floating and stinging style than Tyson in his seek-and-destroy mode in this matchup.

I see Ali closing the show, sticking and moving effectively stealthily and steadily, and Rooney stepping in to retire his fighter after a precise Ali barrage on a stumbling Tyson in Round 14.

 

What about the Ruddock fights?

 

Tyson was on the top in both those fights from start to finish more or less. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Tyson only lasted 2 or 3 rounds in his prime, but his work-rate did go down after the first couple of rounds. More importantly he never showed that he could dig deep when behind or even when the fight was evenly balanced, and come out on top.

 

Temper, temper, Elite. Watch the soothing brilliance of "Mega Tyson" on one of your high light reels and you'll feel better.

 

I hear you on that bro..people saying tyson didnt throw many punches in his prime are the same that still bring up the tired ass ear biting jokes..Mike had an incredible chin,amazing relentless workrate..Not to mention he won the title at ****ing 20 years old..could have done it much younger..Tyson haters go eat a dick..Love Ali,but tyson by ko

 

Actually it was an amazing workrate in my opinion..Look at the force from which he throws his punches..Do you know how tired 99 percent of heavies would be throwing bombs the way he did round after round..Great workrate when u think about it

 

Too many points in your post to even begin with.

Weak Foreman ?

It's unlikely ANYONE ever hit harder than Foreman.

If Ali, could deal with Foreman, and Liston and Frazier, I think he could have dealt with the very explosive, but mentally weak Tyson.

 

Again legend, just too many out-to- lunch points in your post.

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past prime, but NOWHERE CLOSE to shot

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One of most observers' top five, both by accomplishment and also head-to-head.



I watched both Foreman's career fom the amateurs to second retirement and Tyson's entire pro career. I also caught the second half of Liston's career (from Ali 2 onwards).

Mike was a baaaad man and I was (still am ) a fan.


But he's not in the same league for intimidation that Sonny was, and not as dominant as big George was.

 

1964-1967 Muhammad Ali vs 1986-1988 Mike Tyson, This would be the one fight where I cannot see Iron Mike Winning. I watched the angelo dundee trained James Quick Tillis vs mike tyson and seeing how much problems quick gave mike, I think Ali beats tyson by decision or late stoppage if mike breaks down mentally.



Any 1970s version of ali gets knocked out by mike tyson

 

Watch the Tyson who destroyed Tyrell Biggs & Larry Holmes and outboxed Tony Tucker for 12 rounds - all Ali-clone fighters. The Tillis fight was more of a learning experience for Mike and he wasn't at his peak during that time.

 

You Make a good point about Ali's chin vs cooper, if tyson connects he has the ability to finish ali off. But ali in 60s with his footwork and speed was too fast and he would not be so overconfident cocky against tyson as he was cooper. Ali in the 70s much slower would be a sitting duck for mike tyson There is no denying my affection toward tyson, My # 4 heavyweight of all time h2h.

 

You really should stay in the lounge, legend. You don't appear to know the first thing about the sport that drives the forum.

Foreman's reputation in the mid 70's was based on his brutal destruction of everybody he ever faced. (34-0-0, 31 KO's. 22 KO's in under two rounds)

That included two world champions and Iron-chinned George Chuvalo, all three within 3 rounds.

Moorer played no role whatsoever as he was decades into the future, part of George's remarkable second career.

And Frazier glass-chinned?

Who KO'd him, other than big George?

 

Temper, son.

You're not helping your case any with well-argued points like that one.

I watched those fights, when they happened and a number of times since.

You could have found better examples for your case.


Folley suffered a one-sided loss. One of Ali's few one-punch KO's.

Cooper was stopped in the first half of the fight, BOTH times he fought Ali.

Former world champ Patterson was cruelly tortured by Ali for 12 rounds the first time they met. (He had pissed Ali off with comments about being the 'Real American' in their showdown.)

Second time, he was mercifully dispatched mid way through.

Banks tasted the canvas early and was dispatched permanently in the fourth.





As I mentioned, you make yourself look more and more foolish with each passing post.

If boxing ignorance and temper tantrums were valued, you'd be the next Brooklyn1550 on here.


But they're not, and you aren't !