Ali was overrated

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  1. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

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    I hear you, but I personally dont support the notion that you necessarily have to weight jump to be included in P4P discussions (although of course it helps, and both SRR and Duran were exceptional in this regard).

    Ali's abilities (athletic and otherwise) relative to his own very deep talent pool at HW were enough SDs from the mean for a case to be made for him in my opinion.

     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Stefan Holm had a 51 inch vertical.

    Not much of a hook, though.
     
  3. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    Great info Seamus, any chance of a reference?

     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I trained in long jump with a guy who went on to be his training partner. That was a one step vertical, like the one they do in the NFL combine. Stefan was 5-9 and cleared about 7-11 in the high jump. Here's a good training video of the guy hurdling over 6-foot hurdles...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SixgX9blf3Y
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Im English so you have all lost me here with "vertical jumps",but Im pretty sure it has at best a very tenous relevance to "Was Ali Overated?" Which was the original thread.This is a boxing site still I take it?
     
  6. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought so once...until threads like this were started..."Ali overated" :-(
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yeah, my point was that arguing the relative athletic values of Jordan and Ali and/or Jones Jr. is silly.

    Sometimes irony doesn't translate well from American to English.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Americans dont do irony.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali beat everybody during the greatest Heavyweight era. I don't understand how he could be overrated.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

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    Ali is overated by some who think he is a God but as a man he did very well and was a top 3 Heavyweight of all time, however LB4LB Duran at 6"2 215 and Platinum Pep at 6"2 212 would be hard to beat at Heavyweight and again LB 4 LB are greater than Ali, same can be said for Armstrong, and SRR
     
  11. goldenboy

    goldenboy Active Member Full Member

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    bollox!! how can you back that up??? :twisted: :fire
     
  12. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    What? Ali isn't as overrated as he should be.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    I think that was a compliment. I think.:think
     
  14. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    Read it through about 10 more times and you should come up with a more concrete response.

    Where did you come back from, BTW?
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    Having my original account deleted and being gone for about two months. Why do you think my join date says December and I only have 800 posts?