Ali waves off fight and ref stops it

In fairness, in another thread it was more or less agreed by all parties that posted that Quarry was probably just as much if not more, deserving of a shot against Foreman as Norton, as a result of his run after the Ali 2 defeat.

 

Ali was slipping and parrying a lot of those shots,Alex. It was a brilliant piece of on the spot improvisation. Your man Tyson could n't have done something like that If his initial gameplan fell apart,then TYSON fell apart

 

Time and time again posters on this forum seemingly refuse to accept that when a fighter looks much worse than normal it might just have something to do with the opposition. That's why Tyson all of a sudden was over the hill against Douglas, why Hopkins turned into a green amateur against Jones and Toney into a weight drained wreck, etc, etc.

In Quarry's case it means that he was inexplicably in **** poor shape for two of his most important fights (the rematches with Ali and Frazier) even though he had the best run of his career tucked in between them.

 

Plus the fact that he was ahead on the scorecards kinda tells me he was doing more than just lying on the ropes taking punches

 

Important post.

 

Exactly :good

 

Nothing more than 'just-a-bad-day' for Jerry Quarry.

And Muhammad Ali may have had one of his best days in the ring.
He was fast, throwing sharp punches, and possibly his heaviest punches.

Jerry Quarry got discouraged very quickly in this fight.
Also, Jerry was coming off his 10-Round war with Larry Middleton, only 6-weeks earlier.

 

Ok. That could have had some effect. Tough schedule.

 

Something that the likes of Greb and Langford did throughout their career ... makes you appreciate how tough these men were considering how often modern fighters lace up the gloves.

 

Yeah. There was this kind of odd mix at a Swedish talkshow a while back. A Norweigan who'd recently won a belt in womens' boxing was in the studio together with Ruben Carter. She said that she could have a maximum of three fights a year, which is more or less the same as the male boxers on elite level. Carter just scoffed at this and said he used to have 18 fights a year. He had to in order to pay the bills.

Tougher times...

 

:goodI still find it crazy how much more an Armstrong or a Greb or Charles did in a three to five year period than people like a Floyd have arguably done in their whole careers. Factor in the level of opposition being faced back to back and how little time there could be in between such match ups ... :scaredas:

 

It took only a few moments after the start of the bout that we could see that Jerry was not with it and whether it was due largely to seeing his brother ko'd so brutally or that his training wasn't the best toward fighting Ali one can surmise both. He used none of his considerable boxing history and skills seen even in his most off bouts, standing squared off without any attempts to duck and counter, and then showing how off his boxing mind was by picking Ali up and moving him across the ring into the ropes,,,it was the only real strength he showed the entire fight and as said without showing any of his considerably boxing knowledge.