Ali's Countering Ability

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  1. tezel8764

    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Re-watched Ali-Bugner I. I was amazed how easily he dealt with Bugner who was I think 6'6. Even though his legs had slowed down his hand-speed was still incredible at times.
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    Other than the Liston fights, Any other examples of Ali's countering abilities?
     
  2. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bugner was so slow who couldn't counter him? Ali, when faced with good fighters, would just clinch more than counter.
     
  3. Danmann

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    Bugner was 6'4" by the way. And still slow.
     
  4. Danmann

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    Balboa or Marciano?
     
  5. Danmann

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    OK, I see you have gone berserk on another thread, and are talking about Marciano, trying to carry over a debate I did not even realize I was in over in that other thread. You're an *******.
     
  6. tezel8764

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    Ali respected Marciano, even said in their primes it would be his hardest fight.
     
  7. Stevie G

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    Muhammad utilised his countering skills in quite a few fights.
     
  8. Stevie G

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    For a big guy Bugner was n't that slow at all. It's just that Ali was still very fast at this point and made most heavies LOOK slow.
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    Muhammad Ali had very little difficulty countering tall guys.

    And if they were slow, forget about it, as the right hand over the
    slow and long left was his 'prime weapon'.
     
  10. TheGreatA

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxnGjKjxoo[/ame]
     
  11. Stevie G

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    Very true,Pepe.
     
  12. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In his fight with Zora Folley, Folley started out having success with a jab to the chest while trying to keep Ali honest by mixing rights to the body and head. Ali soon adjusted, began anticipating the jab and shooting right hands to the head over that jab instead.

    In the Foreman fight, a lot of Ali's offense was either countering or surprising George when George wasn't expecting a punch.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    Ali was superb at countering jabs. Dundee said he was among the best he ever worked with at doing just that, I think. He slipped inside them, rather than outside, but his head movement was so precise and economic that it didn't really put him at much risk. Especially as he shot the right back directly.
     
  14. pablo1

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    Bugner was 6'4'' but he was not slow at all. He got nice handspeed.
    Ali also countered Bugner's jab in their second fight, but not as much.
     
  15. Danmann

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    Bugner was slow, how anyone can say otherwise is an example of trying to upgrade Ali. Bugner was known as slow, agisnt everyone, reporters always made fun of him for it. In fact, back then, weightlifting was almost unknown for boxers, and his past as shotputter and weight training (which he dropped as boxer) were sometimes mistakenly blamed for his problem