Ali's greatness vs Roy Jones' greatness

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I posted a thread containing most of d info in those posts . enjoy .
     
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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    In their primes IMO Jones was the better fighter.

    Ali is greater though.
     
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  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A more direct answer :
    Jones was d greater fighter .
    Jones was d better fighter .
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was never a good guard, though.

    As for the thread subject, Jones was even more dominant against his opponents in his prime, but he never cleaned out one of the classical divisions, and we arguably never got to see Ali's peak years due to his exile. Roy was also less able to compete when declining physically.

    To put it this way:

    Would Ali kept the 0 on his record for as long as Roy if he never was exiled and also never faced several of the best fighters in his division? I think so.

    Would Roy come back and beat all of his opponents until age 38 if he got robbed of his peak years? No, he flat out wouldn't.
     
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  5. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali was MUCH tougher than RJJ...
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    Roy Jones Jr. had the opportunity to do even greater things than Ali did.

    He could have moved to heavyweight around 1996 - '97. A fight with Holyfield. Or Tyson. Moorer even.
     
    Unforgiven, Oct 3, 2011
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  7. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Ali was better and had a much greater career, mostly because he was better.
     
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  8. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roy was a phenomenal fighter but he didn't have the fights to make him as great as Ali. Roy has to take some of the blame for missing out on some big fights.
    Ali fought everyone who was worth a damn, Roy didn't.
    Skill wise he was better but greater? No way!

    No one is greater than The GOAT. Are they?
     
    Threetime no1, Oct 3, 2011
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  9. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, it's that simple. :good
     
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  10. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, is this still a stupid, baseless, thread like you've suggested prior? Or are you still just looking for new ways to slice and dice me with insults?

    I've paid attention to Jones' career. From what I saw his hands were always lower than they should even when he was faster and younger. Both gloves were by his waist relying on his reflexes. Maybe he was protecting himself from body shots as you suggest, but inadvertently forgot about his head which he got touched severely, later in his career.
    Fighters I've worked with and trained. don't just leave their hands by the waist just to protect themselves from body shots. It's dangerous considering how open you leave your head.

    You shouldn't be so quick to tell people what they should and shouldn't pay attention to when discussing fighters if you can't elaborate and discuss at first instant. Avoid the insults if you can. It just makes you come across as a person that's incapable of civlized discussion.

    BTW, who made you the expert voice of this forum?
     
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  11. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good And to me, toughness is the no.1 attribute
     
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  12. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And got his **** pushed by Holyfield or Tyson
     
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  13. Unforgiven

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    Very possibly, yeah.

    RJJ was no Ali.
     
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  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    please don't compare Ali's greatness to Roy Jones. Ali fought every didn't duck anyone and traveled all over the world to fight. Jones carefully maneuvered through weightclasses handpicked his opponents refused to travel to fight refused to make big fights and had an abysmal Glass Jaw.

    They are not on the same Universe. Jones was a disgrace.
     
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  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You couldn't pay attention to two sentences, 65 words, and just ignored what I wrote. It can't be helped, I suppose.
     
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