All judges had Wilder up 1 round at time of stoppage.

Really?

 

We all knew this.....Ortiz would need 3 rounds...replicants of round 7....for Ortiz to win this.

I picked round 10here but wrong guy.

 

Also: did you notice the free pass for hanging on Ortiz without split up?

 

I don't even score Wilder fights anymore because folks just want to rob him of anything he does boxing wise. Ortiz wasn't doing much in "winning" the first 4 rounds but yet people want to act like Ortiz was boxing a masterpiece. The doctors are NYC rules, if you're a boxing fan you should know this already about the rule changes there.

 

yea those judges had to do everything to protect that Joshua/wilder fight if it went 12i suppose... shame looks like parkers only chance at end of month is a ko. no way they give him a decision vs Joshua lol

 

Simple fella aren't you?

So, let me get this straight. You don't score because people don't appreciate Wilders boxing.
Wilder then fails to box, at all in the first 4 rounds.
Ortiz boxes Wilders face off for 4 rounds to the point his own crowd are boo'ing him.
You then claim Ortiz did little to win those rounds.

So you don't score Wilders fights because of a lack of respect and then go on to completely disregard Ortiz winning the first 4 because you don't respect his boxing. Bright, huh?

So, either

1. Wilder is so terrible a B Class opponent made him look amateur in the first 4 rounds.

OR

2. Ortiz boxed those first 4 rounds AMAZINGLY as he outboxed the amazing Wilder.

You can't have it both ways.

 

Parker ain't making it to 12.

That's something I'll bank on...guy lost 6 rounds so far and that's BC of Wlad.

No offense...

 

parkers chin is very good he can make it 12 lol.

 

Ortiz won those rounds and Wilder was arguably saved by the bell....

Conditioning is key here...I would still be weary putting money on Wilder in this match.

 

You are such a sucky baby, its comical to listen to.

 

What hurt Ortiz on the cards was round 5, a round that he was on his way to winning before getting knocked down / held up by the ropes.

Now really that round probably should have been a 9-9 round with Wilder losing the round then getting the knock down. It wasn't even like it was a clean knockdown either, he never actually went down just held up by the ropes, so that was likely scored 10-8 Wilder, but Ortiz would have won that round pretty clearly had it not been for that KD.

As to how you end up with 85-84 Wilder going into the 10th, well you look at the first 4 rounds, they were very difficult to score. There wasn't many clean punches in those early rounds, a lot of glancing stuff. However Ortiz was the aggressor, Wilder was backpedaling for most of those early rounds and really most of the fight. So based on how people give rounds to the aggressor, you could argue Ortiz won the first 4, then again the first four were pretty much toss-up rounds so if you split those then give Wilder a 10-8 5th, Ortiz a 10-8 7th for how big he won that round (without a knockdown) then.

Another key round was the 9th. Ortiz appeared to be winning that round, though it was close, but then near the end of the round where Wilder caught Ortiz and it looked like Ortiz's legs gone. So the judges may have been influenced by Ortiz being rubbery legged near the end of the round to give that Round to Wilder, but really Ortiz I thought deserved to win that 9th round even despite how Wilder came on late.

That was an awesome fight ! Congrats to Deontay. Props to Ortiz for fighting one hell of a fight. HW Division is really heating up.

 

We will see....My money is on 4th round stoppage..nothing about chin...

Joshua great first 5 round fighter, accurate and Parker hasn't tightened defense up.

Parker needs different fights..bad timing.

 

First four rounds I thought were summarized fairly accurately by Farhood, being each very close but possibly Ortiz just doing enough to win each of those rounds, though I wasn't sure Ortiz won all 4 of those rounds and would actually be up by 4 points after the first 4, generally judges find reasons to split early rounds in big fights when one fighter isn't dominating.

 

That said it was clear that Ortiz was winning before he was knocked down / held up by the ropes late in the 5th. And I really thought Wilder needed that otherwise it would have been very difficult for Wilder to win a decision. (because Ortiz was winning the 5th clearer than he had been winning the first 4, before Wilder knocked him down)

 

I think the judging was acceptable. He was the only one to get a knockdown, was landing harder shots, Ortiz was not doing much. People are always claiming that challengers need to grab the belt from the champion, and Ortiz didn't do that apart from the last 60 seconds of the 7th.

People's hate of Wilder clouds their judgement, and they absolutely refuse to acknowledge it. The Wilder hate: it's like a cognitive bias, of two lines being of equal length but appearing different, and still insisting that they are indeed of different length.