All of Marquez' Losses revisited:

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Baclava, Oct 17, 2013.


  1. Baclava

    Baclava Active Member Full Member

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    Here are the 4 losses I disagree with:

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    in the whole fight not a lot happened, few punches were thrown and even fewer connected. But the bottom line is Marquez clearly won that fight because Norwood did nothing the whole fight. I scored it 8 rounds to 2 for Marquez with 2 rounds even. Norwood dropped Marquez once, Marquez dropped Norwood twice but only one knockdown was called by the ref.

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    clear win for Marquez in my opinion. The first 2 Pacquiao fights I did score for Pacquiao though.

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    I scored it for Marquez 7 rounds to 4 with 1 round even. When the referee realised that Marquez was hurting John with bodyshots in the 2nd half of the fight, he deducted 2 points from Marquez for "lowblows" which were normal bodyshots. So even with those 2 stolen points, I have Marquez winning it.

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    I had Marquez winning that fight very close. I have no problem with Bradley winning it closely either. But on my scorecard Marquez won the fight. If Bradley would have stayed active, he could have scored a wide decision, but he gave away the last 4 rounds on my scorecard.
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    So - after rescoring those losses of Marquez, I have to say that according to my scorecards, he should have only 3 losses on his record and not 7. But: The Bradley fight is in my opinion so close that I have no problem with Bradley winning it even though I scored it for Marquez by 1 point.

    [Pro debut: Marquez lost by DQ, there is no footage of it so I cannot comment on it.]
     
  2. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has 7 losses. JMM has never been robbed in his life. Some close fights? Yes, that's what happens when you compete at the highest level but he was NEVER ROBBED and **** happens. How many times does this need to be said? Just deal with it like hundreds of others boxers have done before him.
     
  3. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    only marquez fight ive ever had a issue with the scoring is the pac vs jmm 3 fight, nobody will convince me otherwise that that was anything but a jmm win

    all his other losses were fair or close enough not to be robberies
     
  4. Baclava

    Baclava Active Member Full Member

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    I actually went back to watch and score those fights. So - I know what my eyes saw. Marquez beat Chris John and he beat Norwood. That is called a robbery in my eyes at least.
     
  5. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, the majority did not see any robberies. As an example, look at the Norwood fight again and even Marquez's own trainer Nacho Beristain said in the corner after ROUND 10, that the fight is extremely close, probably even, and slim. How do you explain this discrepancy of what JMM's own trainer who was ringside said against your lopsided scorecard? It's easy to see who is a more credible source.
     
  6. Baclava

    Baclava Active Member Full Member

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    go on youtube to the videos of the Chris John and the Norwood fights, read the comments and then come back here and admit that basically all comments say he got robbed.
    Furthermore if Beristain really said that, he said it to motivate Marquez cause he knew anyways Marquez would never get the decision.
     
  7. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    man you are a troll and groupie!!

    nacho openly says that marquez lost to norwood! you had marquez winning againts bradley?? :lol: you are a joke and a sore loser like marquez :|
     
  8. Taylor2010

    Taylor2010 Arranging chromosome injections for injured boxers Full Member

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    Do you often hear a trainer telling their fighter that they are well ahead and can relax in the championship rounds?
     
  9. Baclava

    Baclava Active Member Full Member

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    Without knowing, you just admitted you never watched the Norwood fight. If I was a Marquez fan"boy", I could easily say he got robbed against Pacquiao 3 times but I only saw him get robbed in the 3rd fight.
    If you would actually watch the fights you are talking about here, I would actually take you serious. But instead you spend your time on forums talking about fights you never saw and never scored.
     
  10. jcairns1

    jcairns1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A close fight that could go either way isn't a "robbery" to the fighter who doesn't get it.

    Norwood, John and Pac I and II were both close and could have swung either way.

    The only time Marquez was "robbed" was Pac III

    But when I saw you put that you thought Marquez beat Bradley I realized you're an idiot who doesn't know sweet F.A.
     
  11. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You need to get your eyes check if that's what you saw. And if your eyes are ok then you make ******ed people look normal.
     
  12. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately there is countless people here who have NEVER seen the John or Norwood fights yet still point their opinion on who won the fight.:nut
     
  13. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    its my opinion you (unt, go troll somewhere else
     
  14. osirus0830

    osirus0830 Active Member Full Member

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    I think he was robbed when he fought Mayweather
     
  15. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    scoring the bradley fight marquez makes you lose all your credibility...