All over for our Olympic boxers.

Oh well, theres always synchronized swimming.

 

Its a bit disappointing really. The sport in this country really needs more exposure if we are going to produce olympic medallists as well as professional title holders.

 

Our amatuer system needs to be united, so not only the best can represent aus but also so the best can fight each other within this country and gain that important experience which can make all the difference at international level.
Put that together with reviving amatuer boxing in country towns accross australia and we could win a medal within 10 years

 

The boys need a new trainer so they can compete with the euro's and rather than trying to go out and 'smash' their opposition, they should be getting technical advice from an experienced coach (e.g Russian, Cuban) so they develop the skillsets to be competitve on the world stage. God knows the boys had the heart and the fitness- the only thing lacking was sufficient gameplan and tactical prowess to gain more points.

 

Our boys just werent good enough..its as simple as that.

Good on them for getting there, to compete at the olympics at any sport is the pinicle.

 

good point. there is a shortage of good pro trainers in oz, let alone in the unpaid ranks.. someone like kosty may be persuaded to help out at the AIS....?

 

the main problem is that 90% of trainers in oz teach the usa style. then when the go to the ais they are taught the european style in a short space of time. which is very hard to do

 

Hurricn is spot on.. overall, most trainers at boxing gyms in Australia train Amateurs and Pro's the same! So we get Amateurs who can easily transfer whatever ability they have to the pro ranks because they fight pretty similar. However, when guys get to the AIS, the whole emphasis is changed. Sitting down on your punches is no longer a priority, more just letting of 4,5 and 6 punches at a time. Usually its pretty effective for Amateur scoring really (yes, i understand we one 1 of 10 fights!). But it does teach some habits which are bad or not beneficial when fighting without the singlet.. Geale is a good example of someone still showing a very amateur-ish style!

 

the fact that 3 judges have to score the point within a second of each other is the reason why scoring is dodgy. I think the computer system should collate points from each judge at the end of each round and decide the winner that way.
In lester ellis's book he stated that the poorest trainers hes seen are aussie trainers because they do not evolve and learn new techniques, they simply train boxers how they were trained.
I don't think there is anything wrong with Andreas's technique he teaches, more so that it can't be taught in 6 months when a kid has learnt to work off the stiff left and follow up with a hard cross his whole training life, bit like asking danny green to fight like joe calzaghe

 

Maybe so but any boxers I've seen go out with a pro style have lost. Oscar Valdez of Mexico was comprehensively beaten in his fight(albeit by a technically superior fighter) 15-4 but the main difference in points came from his style rather than ability.

A Ghanaian at Light-Heavyweight was probably the better fighter against Brazilian Washington Silva and would have won under the old system before computer scoring but his pro style cost him the fight.

While it is the harder more pro style punches that are scoring, anyone fighting like a pro is being punished and is losing.

 

It sucks that all the boys are out but still congrats to all of them for what they did.. i was still proud to see the boys in the ring for the few fights i did get to see regardless of the losses they still represented Australia with pride!!..

 

I often wondered why flush punches don't score? Is it because the judges can't see them rather than that they don't rate them? Why do the judges sit so far back from the ring and at such a shitty angle. Why not have like tennis umpiring chairs in each corner so the judges can get a clear view. It may sound a little stupid, but punches which landed clear as day more than often went unscored, and I've always wondered how effective the vantage point is of the judges. It may be a small thing but seems blatantly obvious to me.